[net.wanted] Orphaned Response

grw@inmet.UUCP (02/11/84)

#R:inmet:9800032:inmet:9800033:177600:176
inmet!grw    Feb 10 11:03:00 1984

Amp has been sold.  Offer is withdrawn.


					-- Gary Wasserman
					...harpo!inmet!grw
					...hplabs!sri-unix!cca!ima!inmet!grw
					...yale-comix!ima!inmet!grw
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johnl@haddock.UUCP (03/15/84)

#R:burl:-41900:haddock:16900001:177600:364
haddock!johnl    Mar  1 13:35:00 1984

You have a truly amazing version of pr(1) if it does what you say,
printing the first column all the way down the document before it
starts the second column.

The version I have (System III) and all previous ones print multiple
columns per page.  Considering that pr is happy to read from pipes, it's
hard to see how it could do elsewise.

John Levine, ima!johnl

paul@hp-lsd.UUCP (paul) (12/14/84)

RE:  opening plastic DIPs

I brought this to the attention of a hardware friend of mine.  I had recalled
EE labs where I had easily opened a DIP by electrical means and inquired about
it.  The reply:

	The best way to do this is to connect a very low impedence power
	supply so as to reverse-bias one of the junctions.  The junction
	will vaporize and the vapor pressure opens the pack for you.

	(Note - this is lots of fun but watch for flying plastic!)


		--Paul Bame
		UUCP: {hplabs,ihnp4!hpfcla}!hp-lsd!paul
		CSNET: hp-lsd!paul@hp-labs.csnet
		ARPA: hp-lsd!paul&hp-labs@csnet-relay.arpa

jan@absolut.UUCP (02/22/85)

Our company has had experience with WU, SPRINT, MCI, and another
"alternative carrier" I've forgotten.  We are currently using SBS Skyline,
the only service whose quality and reliability of connection rivals that
of AT&T.  And it's very attractively priced.

With all the others we suffered non-connections, disconnections, and poor
transmission quality when we were able to obtain and maintain a connection.


Jan Huffman.    {ucbvax!cbosgd!ima!cfib, decvax!cca}!absolut!jan

bill@absolut.UUCP (03/03/85)

Check with
Dynacomp Systems
Vancouver BC Canada
604-872-7737

They have UN*X for the 64K machines, they may be able to point you in the
right direction.

William Gibbs               {ucbvax!cbosgd!ima!cfib, decvax!cca}!absolut!bill
Absolut Software            617-232-8377
2001 Beacon Street
Boston, MA  02146-4227

mer@prism.UUCP (07/30/85)

Me too. Sigh.  No one's going to have extra tickets to sell, though,
I suspect.  Are there a lot of Springsteen fans on the net?

Meredith Lesly
PO Box 129
Cambridge, MA. 02140

rjn@hpfcla.UUCP (10/14/85)

re: scalping

Yes, I realize that the concert in question is probably  over, but there are
some wider implications here...

1.  If the terms under which  something is sold specify that it is not to be
    resold (or resold at a profit),  then you are  BREAKING AN AGREEMENT  by
    reselling it at a profit.  If you "don't like" the agreement,  don't buy
    the  tickets.  Using the net to assist you  merely  advertises  that you
    cannot be  trusted to keep your  agreements  (this is  probably a public
    service :-).

2.  In using the net, you also agree to NOT use it for explicitly COMMERCIAL
    PURPOSES.  Purchasing  objects  (e.g.  tickets)  with the  intention  of
    reselling  them at a profit them is a  "commercial  purpose" in my book.
    This is another broken agreement, and the net shouldn't tolerate it.

3.  I don't know if scalping is legal in your municipality or not, but if it
    is not, you are once again out of agreement  with the rest of the net by
    using the net for ILLEGAL purposes.  Considering the noise coming out of
    D.C.  on possible  regulation of "bulletin boards", this kind of trouble
    we don't need.

4.  If scalping is illegal, you are also exposing yourself to personal legal
    jeopardy.  There may be  netters  in your  area who are  reserve  police
    officers,  or are  sufficiently  incensed by your conduct to report you.
    Whether or not scalping is legal, "consideration"  (money) was exchanged
    in purchasing the tickets,  making the  transaction a CONTRACT.  So, you
    may also have some civil liability.

If you don't  think that being  "out of  agreement"  has  consequences,  try
looking at yourself in a mirror and saying  (aloud):  "I keep my agreements.
I am an honest person.  I like myself."

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland                                            3404 East Harmony Road
hplabs!hpfcla!rjn                                     Fort Collins CO  80525

rjn@hpfcla.UUCP (10/14/85)

re: more on scalping - supply & demand observations...

Some of the respondents  here have suggested that scalpers merely  represent
normal  supply and demand  forces in the ticket  marketplace.  To the extent
that  you  consider  only  the  FINANCIAL  cost of  tickets,  this is  true.
However, I believe that some performers are trying to sell tickets partially
for a currency OTHER than money (and are thus discouraging scalpers).

Suppose you are a performer whose fans are primarily blue collar workers and
teenagers, with some number of yuppies and upper middle class thrown in too.
So, your primary fans have less  discretionary  income (i.e.  cash) to spend
on  tickets,  but they have lots more TIME  than the  bustling  yuppies  and
uppies.

Now, to maintain fan  loyalty,  you feel obliged to tour.  But in each city,
there are  enough  yuppies  and uppies to gobble up all the  tickets  if you
simply let the price "float up" the supply/demand curve (like it does in Las
Vegas).  If you operate on this policy, you will  eventually  alienate  your
teen/bcw audience, and they'll stop buying records, posters, etc.

What's the  alternative?  A low ticket price guarantees a huge demand, which
must be  mediated  by some other  mechanism.  So, change  part of the ticket
price to TIME - standing  in line.  This puts the  teen/bcw  group on a more
equal footing with the yuppie/uppie  group.  (Personally, 2 hours in line is
a higher price than I'm willing to pay for any performer I can think of.)

If Bruce  Springsteen lets the market (or the scalpers) set the dollar price
of his  tickets,  he'll  soon end up with class of fans very much like Wayne
Newton's.  I doubt if that's attractive to him.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland                                            3404 East Harmony Road
hplabs!hpfcla!rjn                                     Fort Collins CO  80525