[comp.sys.atari.st] Sorry, video i/f query.

gjh@otter.hpl.hp.com (Graham Higgins) (03/14/89)

Apologies for this not being a systems topic but it's doing my crunch!

I have just taken delivery of a brand-new 1040STFM -- the mob for which I work
(Hewlett-Packard) have, stored in the equipment attic, some "old" (~1985)
colour monitors (CGAs). I have managed to get one on semi-permanent loan, which
makes the ST purchase quite a bargain. However ... (isn't there *always* a
"however"?) ... the monitor inputs are RGB BNC connectors and it uses a
composite signal on green for the H & V syncs. Here's the spec ...

Type: 			Analog RGB composite video, sync on green
Polarity:		Negative sync
Level:			0.71 Vp-p for red and blue
			1.0 Vp-p composite signal for green 
			(0.71 Vp-p for video and 0.29 Vp-p for sync)
Input Impedance:	75 ohms
Video Bandwidth:	35 MHz. 
Scan Frequency:		Horizontal 24.90-25.8 KHz
Frame Rate:		Vertical 60 Hz (16.67 ms)

When connecting the ST's RGB outputs alone to the RGB inputs , I do get the
merest hint of a picture, the colouration seems accurate, but obviously, it's
not synced properly, the picture is ripped horizontally (I can make out the
desktop icons and mouse cursor, though). If I add the H & V syncs, I lose the
green and it still doesn't sync. O.K. the ST outgoing H & V syncs should be
inverted -- (I think, or rather that's what I have been told), so I tried that,
using a 7405.  Still no joy. I have checked the signal levels on the H & V sync
lines from the ST, using a scope and it seems that the signals are somewhere in
the region of 5 to 7 Vp-p. 

Now I haven't got a very good model of video signal technology, but it occurs
to me that if there's supposed to be an analog signal on the green line at
about 0.71 Vp-p, then shoving a 5V TTL output on that will swamp the video
signal completely --- at least that's my current theory to explain why it
doesn't work. I have some information on the ST outputs, i.e. that the H & V
syncs are "active low" but this info comes from the "rbgtocom" instructions for
early STs on how to generate a composite video o/p from the RGB, the factual
accuracy of that info may now be incorrect (I have the STFM option).  Anyway
how does "active low" map to "Polarity: Negative" -- is it that the line is
normally high and is brought low for a signal --- that seems to map with
"active low", but what is "Polarity: negative"?, normally low, going high for a
signal? 

Whichever way I try it, I can't seem to get the d**n thing to work. 

Do the H & V sync signals need attenuating and if so, what's the best way to do
it? 

I would be grateful for any suggestions.

Yours in hope

Cheers,

Graham
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