rthurlow@van-bc.UUCP (Rob Thurlow) (01/30/89)
I have a query that I'd like to have answered by both camps that should
know the answer. How do I partition my 60 Meg hard disk for use by TOS,
Minix and the Magic Sac? TOS is the trivial and almost irrelevant case :-)
I know I want to have about 20 Megs for TOS, 25 for Minix and 15 Megs for
the Magic Sac. What is the best way to spend this disk space for Minix
and for the Magic Sac? How many partitions, and how large relative to one
another? I am using the ICD interface, so the number of partitions will
not be limited unduly by the drive formatting, though I have heard that
not all the interfaces grok more than the Atari-standard four partitions.
My initial thoughts are a 50/50 split for the Minix, with / and /tmp on
one partition and /usr on the other; and a small 1 Meg MFS partition and
a 14 Meg HFS partition for the Magic Sac.
Oh, if somebody has the docs on installing HFS on a hard disk under Magic
Sac REAL handy, I'd not complain if you sent them along :-)
PS - Thanks to all of you who responded to my article about the broken
Magic Sac. It is working nicely now that I know that I have to ignore
the Magic Sac Plus documentation on how they are to be plugged in :-)
--
"There was something fishy about the butler. I think he was a
Pisces, probably working for scale." - Nick Danger
Robert Thurlow {uunet,ubc-cs}!van-bc!rthurlow
Vancouver, BC, Canada or rthurlow@van-bc.UUCP
In the heart of Kitsilano or rthurlow@wimsey.bc.cadlm@druhi.ATT.COM (Dan Moore) (02/02/89)
(This is a repost since it didn't seem to make it off the local system the first time.) in article <2193@van-bc.UUCP>, rthurlow@van-bc.UUCP (Rob Thurlow) says: > Oh, if somebody has the docs on installing HFS on a hard disk under Magic > Sac REAL handy, I'd not complain if you sent them along :-) The following is from memory but it should be at least 90% correct. (I haven't done this since I left Data Pacific last spring.) 1) Format two MAGIC MFS floppies. One one place Finder and System. On the other place Finder, System and Hard Disk 20 version 1.1. 2) You need 2 Magic Sac partitions on your hard disk. The first should be a small (under 1 meg) MFS partition. The second is the HFS partition and can be up to 15 Meg. NOTE: 16 Meg partitions work but there is some wasted space. The Magic Sac does not support Supra's extended partitioning scheme (more than 4 partitions) so the Magic partitions must be in the first four partitions on the drive. If you are using Atari's hard disk software the Magic partitions must be after the GemDos partitions, with Supra's or ICD's you can order the partitions any way you want to. 3) Load the Magic Sac, enable the hard disk, do not enable boot from hard disk. Boot using the first floppy (Finder/System, no HD20). After the Mac(tm) is up press shift-F3 to mount the first hard disk partition. Copy Finder, System and HD20 to that partition. Eject the hard disk and reboot. 4) Load the Magic Sac, enable the hard disk, do not enable boot from hard disk. Boot using the second floppy (Finder/System/HD20). You will see a "Hard Disk 20 Startup" message in the "Welcome to Macintosh" dialog. You will then get a flashing A asking you to eject the startup floppy. Eject it. The boot will continue from the first hard disk partition. When Finder is loaded press shift-F4 to mount the second hard disk partition. Copy Finder/System/HD20 to the HFS partition, eject both hard disks and reboot. 5) Load the Magic Sac, enable the hard disk, enable boot from hard disk. You should boot directly to the second hard disk partition. If you need to access the first partition just press shift-F3 to mount it. Always remember to eject the hard disk partitions before shutting off the ST. If you forget you may crash that partition which is a real pain to fix. Also be sure that the both partitions have the same versions of Finder and System, mixing different versions causes lots of very weird things to happen. You need Finder 5.3 or 5.4 with System 3.2 for this to work. Older Finder/Systems don't have HFS support, later Finder/Systems are not designed to work with the 64K ROMs without a lot of playing with ResEdit. There is a bug in Finder 5.3 when running on the Magic Sac, the eject command doesn't work. To eject a disk under Finder 5.3 just drag the disk icon to the trash can. Finder 5.4 doesn't have this problem. Dan Moore AT&T Bell Labs Denver dlm@druhi.ATT.COM dlm@druwy.ATT.COM
humtech@ucschu.ucsc.edu (Mark Frost) (03/15/89)
Hello. I just bought a Seagate ST296N hard disk. I'm currently waiting for my ICD host adapter before I can actually use the drive. I had a few questions before I got into using the drive. First, this is a 80meg drive. I have heard that the current versio of TOS only supports hard drives up to 16meg. I assume that would mean that I would have to create 5 partitions of my hard disk to use the 80megs. Is there some work around for this - some program that fixes this problem? (I assume that TOS 1.4 doesn't have this problem, but then it may be quite some time before I see that.) Is there something else that I'm missing? Second, are there any programs that people consider to be vital to have on their hard disk? I've heard about speedup programs - are they any good? Third, and lastly, the Mac has a program called Disk Express (and maybe others) that will attempt to cleanup any file fragmentation on the disk. Is there any such beastie on the ST? Thanx for your help. Mark Frost Office of the the Computing Coordinator Humanities Division University of California at Santa Cruz Internet: humtech@ucschu.UCSC.EDU Bitnet: humtech@ucschu.bitnet Uucp: ...!ucbvax!ucscc!ucschu!humtech
Xorg@cup.portal.com (Peter Ted Szymonik) (03/17/89)
Just to clarify - the current TOS is limited to 16 meg *partitions*, not a 16meg drive! [grin] I don't know anyway around this other than the TOS fix in 1.4 (I assume its fixed there.) There are some vital programs, many come with ICD's host adapter and are excellent HD tools. With the 296N you're already going to be flying so no speed-up would be needed, they are iffy at best anyway. In my opinion the best DiskExpress-type program for the ST is Tune-Up by Michtron - its incredibly FAST and does an excellent job. Peter Szymonik
franco@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (03/18/89)
Some disk caching software is necessary in order to make the hard disk useful. I use Turbodos (and nothing else) for this task. The program pair DLII and REORG by Poole are very useful for disk maintenance. Unfortunately, I have not found REORG to be totally reliable - possibly I haven't used it correctly. DLII deals with crosslinked and missing sectors, shows fragmentation etc. REORG apparently puts sectors belonging to a file in logical order on the disk. But sometimes it seems to fail.