[comp.sys.atari.st] MORE HARD DRIVE DISCUSSION

MAXG@SUVM.BITNET (Gerry Greenberg) (05/16/89)

First off, I'd like to thank those of you who have replied to me
directly in connection with my first inquiry about BMS 200 and SCSI hard
drives.  It seems to me that it is easier to go without the intermediate
step of using something like the Adaptec400 to be able to use st506
drives...probably easier to put together and probably cheaper.  Now, I'm
going to throw a twist into my original question.  I am really
interested in getting a hard drive to use with a mac emulator.  Right
now I have the MagicSac and am considering moving up to Spectre.  The
thing is, if I build one of these BMS 200 + SCSI drive systems, will it
work with the Magic Sac and/or Spectre128.  I have seen Dave Small's
recent gadgets newsletter where he says Spectre now works with Seagate
277N and 296N SCSI drives, but what about with the MagicSac?  Does
anyone out there have any experience with a MagicSac running off a SCSI
hard drive system?  And not necessarily with a Seagate...what about
Micropolis? or Miniscribe?  I think I've found some decent prices in
Computer Shopper, but would hate to put the thing together to find out
that it won't work with the MagicSac.  Also, what about these drives
with the Spectre? Anyone have BMS 200 + SCSI (other than Seagates, which
I've read alrady work) on the Spectr? (Dan, can you help with any of this?)
As always, thanks again in advance for your helpful advice.
---Gerry
maxg@suvm.bitnet
ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu

dlm@druwy.ATT.COM (Dan Moore) (05/16/89)

in article <8905152003.AA28126@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>,
MAXG@SUVM.BITNET (Gerry Greenberg) says:
> going to throw a twist into my original question.  I am really
> interested in getting a hard drive to use with a mac emulator.  Right
> now I have the MagicSac and am considering moving up to Spectre.  The
> thing is, if I build one of these BMS 200 + SCSI drive systems, will it
> work with the Magic Sac and/or Spectre128.  I have seen Dave Small's
> recent gadgets newsletter where he says Spectre now works with Seagate
> 277N and 296N SCSI drives, but what about with the MagicSac?  Does
> anyone out there have any experience with a MagicSac running off a SCSI
> hard drive system?

	The Magic Sac will "sorta" work with Seagate 277N and 296N hard
disks.  Most of the time you will have no problems but occasionally you
will get "unable to write file skip or continue" messages.  This happens
most often when copying large files to/from the hard disk when lots of
SCSI i/o is occuring.  Spectre version 1.9 adds the "slow SCSI" option
which fixes this problem. 

> And not necessarily with a Seagate...what about
> Micropolis? or Miniscribe?

	I've only heard of problems with integral SCSI drives and then
only with Seagates.  I've never seen any problems with seperate
controller and drive setups, in fact Dave uses an Adaptec 4070 RLL
controller with a 277R.

> Also, what about these drives
> with the Spectre? Anyone have BMS 200 + SCSI (other than Seagates, which
> I've read alrady work) on the Spectre?

	Fortunately all the ST hard disk interfaces are hardware and
software compatible.  The differences are features (pass thrus, clocks,
etc.) and quality (some of the ST interfaces are real junk).  The only
drive interface that is incompatible with the Magic Sac and the Spectre
is the Haba drive.  Since they haven't been sold in 3 or 4 years very
few people care.


				Dan Moore
				AT&T Bell Labs
				Denver
				dlm@druwy.ATT.COM