dit@alf.sybase.com (King Cobra) (06/16/89)
Ok, here's the scoop...I have megs and megs of files (well, a meg, ok) on
the computer that I use at work. It is a real pain in the ass to Kermit each
file one by one (uniterm on ST, Ckermit on Sun) via modem. So, is there a
way that I could put files into a HUGE Archive and just get it overnight,
say? Is there a unix arcer compatible with the ST ARC format?
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{pyramid,pacbell,sun,}!sybase!dit \!/ d mic is a third railpyr545@psc90.UUCP (Andrew C. Stoffel) (06/19/89)
In article <4698@sybase.sybase.com> dit@alf.sybase.com (King Cobra) said the following: >Ok, here's the scoop...I have megs and megs of files (well, a meg, ok) on >the computer that I use at work. It is a real pain in the ass to Kermit each >file one by one (uniterm on ST, Ckermit on Sun) via modem. So, is there a >way that I could put files into a HUGE Archive and just get it overnight, >say? Is there a unix arcer compatible with the ST ARC format? While I can't attest to the existance of a(n) Unix arcer (I've heard of one.. just never seen it) you could try the following: In my possession I have two programs for the ST called compress.ttp and tar.ttp. compress acts the same way as compress/uncompress on the pyramid I'm typing this on (Well, at least it can uncompress files I've compressed on the pyramid, haven't tried the other direction yet). I assume tar is simular to unix tar but since I have NO documents on it I can't tell ... If you can get your hands on these two programs just compress and tar the files in unix (and d/l them using Uniterm and kermit) and then unpack/uncompress them and... there you go..... hope this helps. Andy :-) >______________________________________________________________________________ > David ian trumbull \yeah / follow and follow b cause d tempo's > dit@sybase.com \boy/ a trail -~~~~~ d stage is a cage >{pyramid,pacbell,sun,}!sybase!dit \!/ d mic is a third rail (* I really hope I don't have two .sig*s here !! I can only see one !!*) | Andrew 'C' Stoffel | UUCP {uunet!unh,dartvax}!psc90!pyr545| | "The Snark WAS a Boojum, you see!"| #include </usr/src/disclaimer> | "Reality !?! Isn't that something you sprinkle on ice ??" |
john@stag.UUCP (John Stanley) (06/22/89)
[dit@alf.sybase.com (King Cobra) writes...] > Ok, here's the scoop...I have megs and megs of files (well, a meg, ok) on > the computer that I use at work. It is a real pain in the ass to Kermit each > file one by one (uniterm on ST, Ckermit on Sun) via modem. So, is there a > way that I could put files into a HUGE Archive and just get it overnight, > say? Is there a unix arcer compatible with the ST ARC format? There are a number of ports for ARC that run on various unix machines, but since you don't mention what version you're using (and I really don't know much about unix arcivers), I can't help you on that. On the other hand, one thing I can strongly recommend is getting a copy of a zmodem transfer program for your ST and your unix machine. The program pair sz/rz (aka. RZ.TTP and SZ.TTP) are available for both machines (in C on unix). It's very portable, has quite a few powerful options, can transfer multiple (wildcarded) files, and is typicaly many times faster (honest) than kermit, even kermit with the compression available via ARC... A long time ago I used kermit to xfer between my ST and the Unix machine I use. When I first transfered a large file using zmodem, it quit so soon that I though the transfer had died, but the file was sitting on the receiving end totaly intact. Using a 2400 baud modem I've typicaly been able to transfer around 1meg/hour using zmodem. (I'd hate to even consider how long that would take using kermit...) Anyone using kermit to xfer files who could, with a bit of work, use zmodem is loosing out on a good thing. ... John STanley PS: Don't even think about taking my above message as a critisism of Kermit. Kermit is a universal protocol designed to transfer between any two programable boxes over almost any data channel. As such, it does an excelent job. I'm only pointing out that using standard modem links between two specific machines allows one to use much(!) faster (and less general-purpose) tools. --- John Stanley <dynasoft!john@stag.UUCP> Software Consultant / Dynasoft Systems
hyc@math.lsa.umich.edu (Howard Chu) (06/23/89)
In article <4698@sybase.sybase.com> dit@alf.sybase.com (King Cobra) writes: >Ok, here's the scoop...I have megs and megs of files (well, a meg, ok) on >the computer that I use at work. It is a real pain in the ass to Kermit each >file one by one (uniterm on ST, Ckermit on Sun) via modem. So, is there a The most direct solution is just to put Ckermit in server mode, and Get with a wildcard from Uniterm's Kermit. That works fine, really. >way that I could put files into a HUGE Archive and just get it overnight, >say? Is there a unix arcer compatible with the ST ARC format? Source code for ARC 5.21c (3rd revision after my initial release) for both Atari ST and any Unix system can be ftp'd anonymously from the archive at terminator.cc.umich.edu, 35.1.33.8. Look in unix/arcsrc.tar.Z, a compressed tar file. -- -=- PrayerMail: Send 100Mbits to holyghost@father.son[127.0.0.1] and You Too can have a Personal Electronic Relationship with God!
VBRANDT@DBNUAMA1.BITNET (06/26/89)
In Info-Atari16 Digest #305, mailrus!um-math!hyc@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Howard Chu) says: >Source code for ARC 5.21c (3rd revision after my initial release) for both >Atari ST and any Unix system can be ftp'd anonymously from the archive at >terminator.cc.umich.edu, 35.1.33.8. Look in unix/arcsrc.tar.Z, a compressed >tar file. Oh, please, please, PLEASE, can a friendly netter email me a copy? I can't ftp since I'm on BITNET only. That would be a great help (I would like to Turbo C-ify ARC and generally tweak it for speed). Please send word first, so I don't waste net resource more than I already do. I just *hope* I can reply ... Alternatively, could it be put somewhere on a server (ie. ssyx)? [Needless to say, I tried to email Howard, and -- you guessed it -- never got a reply ... I assume it got lost, considering recent email experiences :-(a ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bitnet: VBRANDT@DBNUAMA1 (will go away late '89) Volker A. Brandt UNM409@DBNRHRZ1 (soon) Angewandte Mathematik UUCP: ...!unido!DBNUAMA1.bitnet!vbrandt (Bonn, West Germany) ARPAnet: VBRANDT%DBNUAMA1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
rosenkra@hall.cray.com (Bill Rosenkranz) (06/27/89)
--- you might also look into GNU tar which has been ported to the ST (brought to you by the same folks doing gcc...). it reads/writes standard unix tar files, even preserving directory structure (and switches "\" for "/"). i believe i've seen it on compuserve as well as the normal archive site for gcc-ST. -bill
vxp6840%ritcv@cs.rit.edu (07/02/89)
In article <3441@hall.cray.com> rosenkra@hall.UUCP (Bill Rosenkranz) writes: > >--- >you might also look into GNU tar which has been ported to the ST (brought >to you by the same folks doing gcc...). it reads/writes standard unix >tar files, even preserving directory structure (and switches "\" for "/"). > >i believe i've seen it on compuserve as well as the normal archive site for >gcc-ST. > >-bill I've been interested in getting the gcc source and binaries for the ST for the longest time. This is the first time I've heard mention of a gcc-ST archive. How does one access this? Thanks for any help. -Vitas P.- ...![allegra, seismo, or rutgers]!rochester!rit!vxp6840 vcp6840@ritvax.bitnet or vxp6840@ritcv.UUCP
rosenkra@hall.cray.com (Bill Rosenkranz) (07/03/89)
In article <1187@cs.rit.edu> vxp6840%ritcv@cs.rit.edu (-Vitas P.-) writes:
=I've been interested in getting the gcc source and binaries for
=the ST for the longest time. This is the first time I've heard
=mention of a gcc-ST archive. How does one access this?
=
=Thanks for any help.
=
=-Vitas P.- ...![allegra, seismo, or rutgers]!rochester!rit!vxp6840
= vcp6840@ritvax.bitnet or vxp6840@ritcv.UUCP
method 1: ftp terminator.cc.umich.edu should have gcc for ST TOS (and
minix?). it is stored as compressed tar files.
method 2: compuserve has it (i think v1.34 was the last i saw there about
a week ago). it is in ARC format.
gcc is BIG (several megabytes). don't even bother unless you have a hard
disk and AT LEAST 1 MB.
-bill
rosenkra@boston.cray.com