eike@gmdzi.UUCP (Eike Best) (08/30/89)
Whatever happened to the Atari Transputer Workstation? Would anybody who visited the Duesseldorf Fair be so kind as to report his or her impressions about the ATW? Thanks in advance. Eike Best (eike@gmdzi.uucp or eike@infhil.uucp)
mboen@nixpbe.UUCP (Martin Boening) (08/31/89)
ATW News from the fair (this is not my impression - I can't afford to buy an ATW): Quoting from the Duesseldorf fair exhibitors catalogue: The Atari Transputer Workstation (ATW) running HELIOS The ATW was first shown in it's new design at the CeBit '89 (Hannover). Since then ATWs of this build are being produced in small numbers and delivered to developers. The ATW is the combination of the wellknown (UNIX concepts) with modern technology (Transputer networks) and coming graphics standards (X Windows). The ATW is caharcterized by its graphics capabilities and its modular concept. The computing power can be increased continously by adding Farmcards which carry additional processors. It is thus possible to find the best combination of investment amount and power. The standardized interfaces (Posix, Transputer-link, SCSI, EThernet, ...) allow the connection of other manufacturers' products to the ATW. The operating systzem for the ATW is HELIOS. HELIOS is almost completely compatible to UNIX (TM) [footnote: UNIX is a registered Trademark of AT&T] and was designed specially for multiprocessor-systems (Transputer networks). Several Transputer workstations can be combined to one Multiuser-system. The Hardware The ATARI Transputer Workstation in the basic version consists of a mother- board, an I/O board, a videoboard, a diagnostics board, a 3 1/2" disk drive and a 40MB harddisk. The product is offered in a tower case. Figure 1 [not included !] shows all components of the workstation in a block diagram. The motherboard holds a Transputer T800-20, 4 MB RAM, a color blitter (blossom) and the video RAM. The Transputer is a complete 32bit parallel computer. It sports 10MIPs and 1.5 MFLOPs per chip. There are 4MB RAM which can be extended to up to 16MB. The Blitter (Blossom) executes fast graphics operations. It's hard- ware was adapted to the requirements of the X-windows routines. The video RAM is 1MB big and dual ported. A special address decoding supports several video modes. The user can chose among 4 video modes: Mode 0: 4 bit pixeldepth, 1280*960 pixels using 16 colors Mode 1: 8 bit pixel depth, 1024*768 pixels using 256 out of a total of 16 million different colors Mode 2: 8 bit pixeldepth, 640*480 pixels using 256 out of a total of 16 million different colors Mode 3: 32 bit pixeldepth, 512*480 pixels in 16 million different colors The video board holds the D/A converters for several video modes. In the final production release the video board will be replaced by a new, highly integrated chip (,Dylan'). The motherboard is coupled to the I/O board via one of the four transputer links. The I/O board consists of a reduced ATARI MEGA ST the hardware of which was modified especially in view of it's I/O operations. A new DMA chip (,Morpheus') manages two additional interfaces: the transputer link and SCSI. The I/O board has 1 MB RAM. All MEGA ST interfaces, such as Midi, Centronics, ACSI (DMA port), Floppy and RS232, are still available. The DMA-Port (ACSI) supports the operation of (max. 7) Atari Harddisks and laserprinters. For hooking up more mass storage devices there is an SCSI interface (max. 8 harddisks supported). The Extensions The RAM can be extended by up to 12 MB using RAM extensions. An external transceiver connects the ATW with Ethernet networks. The computing power of the workstation is extended by so-called farmcards. A farmcard has optionally 1..4 transputers on board, each with 1MB RAM. The transputers are coupled by their links. A configuration board can be used as a connecting field for transputer links. This board supports a software-based configuration of the transputer network. The Software The ATW is delivered with the operating system Helios and the graphics interface X Windows. Graphics output is managed by X Windows V11. The architecture of the transputer-hardware supports the processing of concurrent parallel processes. An arbitrary number of transputer can be connected via links. A single transputer can process an unlimited number of processes quasi-parallel using time slice scheduling methods. The software house Perihelion has implemented the operating system Helios on the transputer. Using the Helios shell the user has access to almost all commands of the UNIX(TM) C-shell. Applications programs access almost Unix-compatible system functions by way of the library routines. The IEEE (Posix) standard is met completely. An extension in the direction of Unix System V, Version 3.1 and later, is intended. Helios is a distributed (over several transputers) operating system. The principal of message transfers, which is used, guarantees fault tolerance. Communication of Helios with the outside world is done across the I/O board. On that board, a server program is running under TOS, the Atari operating system. Available Software DSL (Distributed Software Limited), a sales division of the developer Perihelion (England), offers development packages (Compilers and tools). Meanwhile there are authorized distributors in the Federal Republic of Germany. They also offer several compilers for C, Pascal, Modula2, Fortran or BASIC. There are also a TDS server and several libraries already. At the presen time applications in the areas of 3-dimensional graphics editors (CAD), realtime simulations and pattern recognition systems using neural networks are being developed. Later on the user will have access to the complete diversity of workstation software: databases allowing multiuser access, production management (CIM), graphical simulators for example for molecular models, electrical circuits, ... End of Quote Well, what do you say. From the above I glean that the ATW should be available genarally soon. But at what price? Probably real high, compared with the Atari motto of 'power without the price'. Anyhow, a really professional machine, I think. The demos at the Atari fair were real nice, too. So long Martin -- Email: in the USA -> ...!uunet!philabs!linus!nixbur!mboening.pad outside USA -> {...!mcvax}!unido!nixpbe!mboening.pad Paper Mail: Martin Boening, Nixdorf Computer AG, DS-CC22, Pontanusstr. 55, 4790 Paderborn, W.-Germany
daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) (09/06/89)
in article <499@nixpbe.UUCP>, mboen@nixpbe.UUCP (Martin Boening) says: > Xref: cbmvax comp.sys.atari.st:19823 dnet.atari:0 > The operating systzem for the ATW is HELIOS. HELIOS is almost completely > compatible to UNIX (TM) [footnote: UNIX is a registered Trademark of AT&T] > and was designed specially for multiprocessor-systems (Transputer networks). > Several Transputer workstations can be combined to one Multiuser-system. What's missing is memory protection. The only way multiple tasks can be isolated from one another at all under Helios, or any other Transputer operating system, is to be running on different transputers. All other Workstation-type machines offer hardware memory protection on a task by task basis. > Martin -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Systems Engineering) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy Too much of everything is just enough
hase@netmbx.UUCP (Hartmut Semken) (09/06/89)
In article <7827@cbmvax.UUCP> daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) writes: >in article <499@nixpbe.UUCP>, mboen@nixpbe.UUCP (Martin Boening) says: >> Xref: cbmvax comp.sys.atari.st:19823 dnet.atari:0 [Helios is pretty much UNIX-alike and POSIX compatible] >What's missing is memory protection. The only way multiple tasks can be >isolated from one another at all under Helios, or any other Transputer >operating system, is to be running on different transputers. All other >Workstation-type machines offer hardware memory protection on a task by >task basis. True. But memory protection doesn't fit into the Transputer architecture (or in my view of the ... :-) Well, everybody wants Unix. Given Minix (max. program size = 64k+64k) I'd like a T212-based machine to show up. This T is less than $75 and (kind of) binary compatible to the T414... If a task fits into 64k, this is the one... hase -- Hartmut Semken, Lupsteiner Weg 67, 1000 Berlin 37 hase@netmbx.UUCP Dennis had stepped up into the top seat whet its founder had died of a lethal overdose of brick wall, taken while under the influence of a Ferrari and a bottle of tequila. (Douglas Adams; the long dark teatime...)
perand@ttds.UUCP (Per Andersson) (09/10/89)
In article <3396@netmbx.UUCP> hase@netmbx.UUCP (Hartmut Semken) writes: > >Well, everybody wants Unix. Given Minix (max. program size = 64k+64k) >I'd like a T212-based machine to show up. This T is less than $75 and >(kind of) binary compatible to the T414... > >If a task fits into 64k, this is the one... > >hase Well, it is strange how many people cant differentiate a 8088 from a 68000. This limit is imposed by the PCs Intel processor, and since the ST doesnt have a 8088 ( at least i have never heard of one ), the 64+64 limit simply does not apply. If you were referring to PC-Minix please forgive me, but this is comp.sys.atari.st, right ? This has been said before, and no doubt will have to be told thousand of times more....... No flame intended. Per -- Per Andersson #include <standard_disclaimer.h> Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden perand@admin.kth.se, @tds.kth.se, @nada.kth.se or perhaps {backbone}!sunic!ttds!perand
hase@netmbx.UUCP (Hartmut Semken) (09/11/89)
In article <1246@ttds.UUCP> perand@ttds.UUCP (Per Andersson) writes: >In article <3396@netmbx.UUCP> hase@netmbx.UUCP (Hartmut Semken) writes: >>I'd like a T212-based machine to show up. This T is less than $75 and >>(kind of) binary compatible to the T414... >>If a task fits into 64k, this is the one... >Well, it is strange how many people cant differentiate a 8088 from a 68000. Well, I see. I did not make myself clear: I have ST Minix (and love to have MicroEMACS 3.9e using 300+k :-). But still most programs fit into 128k (cause they were written for the 88) The T212 has 64k of adress space. This is very much to fill in assembler... A system using lots of 212s really could fly... I hope, SGS Thomson will bring the T414 to affordeble prices. hase -- Hartmut Semken, Lupsteiner Weg 67, 1000 Berlin 37 hase@netmbx.UUCP Dennis had stepped up into the top seat whet its founder had died of a lethal overdose of brick wall, taken while under the influence of a Ferrari and a bottle of tequila. (Douglas Adams; the long dark teatime...)