20370843@wsuvm1.BITNET (12/07/86)
Received: by WSUVM1 (Mailer X1.23) id 4288; Sat, 06 Dec 86 12:45:42 PLT Date: Sat, 06 Dec 86 12:36:19 PLT From: "Brian L. Henry" <20370843@WSUVM1> Subject: uudecode To: Atari Mailing List <info-atari16@score.stanford.edu> 1. Has anybody got C source for uudecode? I have assembly source but have trouble making an executable file with it (anybody use A-Seka?). Does anybody on bitnet know of a program for CMS which can do the uudecoding before you download? 2. Is it possible to produce composite color output with an ST rigged to produce only RGB? I have a composite RF modulator for my old VIC-20 I'd like to use for the ST, if possible. 3. How can we access the PD Atari stuff (at score?) from Bitnet? Is there anybody out there willing to send me a list of games/utilities that are avail- able? Thanks in advance, B. Henry 20370843@wsuvm1.bitnet
jhs@mitre-bedford.ARPA.UUCP (12/10/86)
I will answer a subset of your questions. I hope someebody else will fill in the other answers. "1. Has anybody got C source for uudecode?..." I have both encode and decode programs in c which I have not tried but which were said to be very standard so that they will work with most compilers and systems. I am forwarding copies under separate cover. "2. Is it possible to produce composite color output with an ST rigged to produce only RGB?..." I am not familiar with what's on the ST board, but if they ship some with composite or TV modulator outputs then probably there is a place on the board for an "NTSC encoder" chip. If so, you might buy the part from a service dealer and install it. You might even get their TV modulator also and not bother with the VIC-20 one. ... On the other hand, if I am wrong and there is no slot for the encoder, you can still build up one externally. In fact, I am trying to persuade a cousin of mine who is an expert video circuit designer to develop and market such a gadget (as well as the other side of the coin, the NTSC to RGB converter to let ST owners run their VCR through the ST's monitor). The more clamor for such devices I can show him, the sooner he is likely to take me seriously and develop these products. One person who would know for sure about installing the device on the board would be Paul Swanson of Nite Lite Systems. He can be reached via BBS at (617) 663-4221. Nite Lite Systems is the manufacturer of the fairly well-known Nite Lite BBS system for the 8-bit Atari computers, and is also an ST sales and service dealer. Paul is both proprietor and technical expert on hardware and software for all Atari computers. If such an installation can be done, he can do it for you. -John Sangster / jhs@MITRE-bedford.arpa
INFIPA7@HENTHT5.BITNET.UUCP (12/11/86)
Hi,
I recently get your digest over atari st. You also sent me uudecoded files.
But there is really one problem: What is uudecode? How can i get this pro-
gram (either for the Vax or Atari)? How can i use it?
SietzePeck@RADC-MULTICS.ARPA (Rodney) (12/18/86)
mnetor!utzoo!utcsri!utegc!utai!garfield!dalcs!silvert@seismo.css.gov writes: >I have had no trouble whatsoever uudecoding on either a VAX or Wicat >system. Why shouldn't it work? You are only translating codes to >bytes. It may be that the version of uudecode doesn't work right. Right! It doesn't work right! Possible reasons: 1. completely incorrect uudecode algorithm (or incorrectly coded) 2. different uudecode algorithm than the one the file was encoded with 3. hardware complications Multics is strange. It runs on a honeywell DPS-8 I believe. It is a 36 bit system which uses 9 bits for a byte. Its possible that the binary transfer is causing problem because I don't know what it is doing with the ninth bit. Paul Smee (the instigator of this series of messages) is also on a multics system so he will face the same problems as I am. For anyone not familiar with the inner workings of uuencode, there is a bit of bit manipulation going on, and the 9th bit kind of throws a wrench (spanner for you englishmen) into the works. I'm still working on the problem on and off, if I get it working, I'll be sure to annoy everyone around the globe by posting the pl/1 source for uudecode. (maybe encode too) 'cheers', rodney PS: I have three final exams tomorrow so any opinions I may appear to have are those obtained subliminially from constant reading of techniques of integration.... REMEMBER: the integral of V dU = UV - the integral of U dV !
pes@bath63.ux63.bath.ac.uk (Paul Smee) (12/22/86)
Still looking at this one. Given my impression of the range of people having the problems, I doubt it's human error. Means there's a bug in one of: <Host> uudecode <Host> binary kermit <Some particular ST> binary kermit (where <Host> means some specific combination of OS+hardware, or some small set of such -- since most people don't see it. I suspect it's some particular verson of U**x or (less likely) of V*X/VMS -- maybe even the popular Berkely 4.2bsd on one particular hardware setup.) I've now got one tiny, and incomplete, bit of evidence, but it's a start. I e-mailed a copy of Uniterm to a lady at Sussex. She uudecoded it on her big machine, and binary transferred the result to the ST. It didn't run. I posted her a disk copy of my UUDECODE. She transferred the encoded file to her ST, UUDECODEd there, and it ran. A comparison of the 2 ARC files (one good, one bad) resulted in 1350 differences, apparently (by eye scan) all of one bit. There was no obvious pattern either as to which bit in a byte, or as to 'spacing' of the bytes. They all appeared (quick scan, agan) to be in the same 'direction' -- that is, the bad file had a bit on which should have been off (or vice versa, my data's hiding on an inaccessible machine right now, but for sure all the same direction). So, someone's got a bug. If anyone else finds a similar looking problem, it would help, I think, if they could re-UUENCODE the 'bad' file, and do a char diffs between the received UUENCODEd and the regenerated UUENCODEd, to see if some particular char or sequence is implicated. It would be nice to track this down. (It offends me even if I can't duplicate it on my machine that such a bug should be allowed to live...) Cheers, Paul
pes@bath63.ux63.bath.ac.uk (Paul Smee) (12/23/86)
Caught it. It's none of the above, but rather one of (a) some version of uuencode or (b) some beknighted gateway or comms implementation. The character causing problems (in uuencoded UNITERM) is the tilde, or twiddle, (or ~) character. Some uuencoded programs contain twiddles. Some uudecodes (e.g. mine) will handle twiddles. However, twiddle **IS NOT** in the 'official' UUENCODE character set. From a look at the files, it appears that the twiddles are replacing caret, or hat, or not (or ^) characters. (Note that twiddle is ASCII 176 octal, and hat is 136 octal.) So, it looks like the answer is (a) if you're having uudecode problems, check to see if there are twiddles in the file, and if so, turn them into hats; and (b) to solve the new problem, of which UUENCODE generates files containing twiddles, or possibly, which machine changes hats to twiddles as the files get transmitted through... Thanks to Leila Burrell-Davis at Sussex for her help in chasing this...
PV9Y@cornella.BITNET.UUCP (02/18/87)
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Date: 17 February 87 20:24 EST
From: PV9Y@CORNELLA
Subject: uudecode
To: INFO-ATARI16@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU
This is an unqualified THANK YOU to Jean-Pierre Dumas for his new
improved uudecode that eliminates the need to mess around with editting
files for decoding. I heartily endorse this program as one of the most
useful ever if you do any file downloading.
Adam Engst
pv9y@cornella.bitnet
engst%tcgould.tn.cornell.edu@crnlcs.bitnetmh4x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Edward Hamill) (09/14/87)
Where can I get a version of UUDecode that I can port off of the next (Make that net) without having UUdecode to decode it? Mark Hamill
cw@vaxwaller.UUCP (Carl Weidling) (09/15/87)
In article <AVGsVly00Ug1FeA05=@andrew.cmu.edu>, mh4x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Edward Hamill) writes: > Where can I get a version of UUDecode that I can port off of the next > (Make that net) without having UUdecode to decode it? > > Mark Hamill Someone asked about this before, and I seemed to recall that someone had posted a version of uudecode in BASIC. I looked through my mass of saved postings and couldn't find it though. Maybe that's the solution for some people. If someone has it, they could repost it; or someone could rewrite it and post it. The other solution for someone like Mark Hamill would probably be to contact a user's group, or check magazines for places that provide diskettes of collected public domain software, maybe even Atari can provide it? Regards, Carl Weidling
leo@sunybcs.uucp (Leo Wilson) (09/16/87)
In article <1089@vaxwaller.UUCP> cw@vaxwaller.UUCP (Carl Weidling) writes: >In article <AVGsVly00Ug1FeA05=@andrew.cmu.edu>, mh4x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Edward Hamill) writes: >> Where can I get a version of UUDecode that I can port off of the next >> (Make that net) without having UUdecode to decode it? > Someone asked about this before, and I seemed to recall that someone >had posted a version of uudecode in BASIC. I looked through my mass of saved I'm pretty sure this is available for anonymous ftp from the case site... Haven't chacked in a few weeks, but I remember seeing it there in the past. ----- Leo E. Wilson 364 West Delavan Avenue Buffalo, NY 14213 (716)883-7573(leo@gort.cs.Buffalo.EDU)...!sunybcs!leo
NETWORK@FRSAC11.BITNET (09/21/87)
Date: 21 September 1987, 17:06:06 GMT From: NETWORK at FRSAC11 To: INFO-ATARI16 at SCORE About uudecoding: I can provide uue.ttp and uud.ttp in simple hex format, so that anyone can get the binary up without anything else than almost any language. No need for arc or uudecode for that. Just ask for it. Jean-Pierre H. Dumas network@frsac11 (bitnet) network%frsac11.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu (arpanet) dumas@sumex-aim.stanford.edu (arpanet)
JJL101@PSUVM.BITNET (J.J. Lehett) (09/27/88)
Any help here would be greatly appreciated. I am sort of in a catch 22.
I need UUdecode, but most of the UUDecodes I have seen on the net are already
uuencoded. I saw one that was in St basic, but I have absolutely no success
in decoding any files with the uue extension with it yes. Is it possible for
someone to send me a Uudecode program that is not in BAS or in UUE format but
either TOS or PRG.
Thanks in advance!
J.J.
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-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-dav@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (William David Haas) (03/28/89)
I grabbed the metafont arc files from the binary group when they were posted
and I am having trouble de-arcing them. The metafont arc is broken into
6 pieces of less then 32 K. At the end of the files is the statement
'include metafont.uuX'. I have tried uudecode on unix and on the atari.
I have tried it on the files seperately and I even cat'ed the files
together and tried it. I created one big file and removed all the non
uudecode statements and tried that.
What is the correct procedure to uudecode a set of files that are in parts?
I have a mailbox containing the readnews arc/uudecode messages. What do
I do next?
ALso, I am in a rush to get metafont working. Anyone out there have a place I
can ftp the .arc file from?
And finally, while I have your attention, anyone have source to a program
that will dearc the .arc files from him1 on a unix machine? I have a
unix machine with the .arc files I ftp'ed but some are over 720K. My unix
can write dos floppies so if I get the files under 720 K I don't have to
kermit them to my atari... I can DOSxfer them.
_
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warrior spirit. \__________\/covertr@gtephx.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) (03/30/89)
In article <12777@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU>, dav@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (William David Haas) writes: > I grabbed the metafont arc files from the binary group when they were posted > and I am having trouble de-arcing them. The metafont arc is broken into > 6 pieces of less then 32 K. At the end of the files is the statement > 'include metafont.uuX'. I have tried uudecode on unix and on the atari. > I have tried it on the files seperately and I even cat'ed the files > together and tried it. I created one big file and removed all the non > uudecode statements and tried that. > > What is the correct procedure to uudecode a set of files that are in parts? > I have a mailbox containing the readnews arc/uudecode messages. What do > I do next? > > ALso, I am in a rush to get metafont working. Anyone out there have a place I > can ftp the .arc file from? > > And finally, while I have your attention, anyone have source to a program > that will dearc the .arc files from him1 on a unix machine? I have a > unix machine with the .arc files I ftp'ed but some are over 720K. My unix > can write dos floppies so if I get the files under 720 K I don't have to > kermit them to my atari... I can DOSxfer them. > _ I found out how to use uud by reading the source code. I had the same problems with the recent ckermit posts. It turns out that uue will break a large (>100K??) file into smaller parts. This was done with the ckermit ARC file. I found out that the first file includes the second, the second file includes the third file, and so on until you get to the last file. With the ckermit posts the files should be named: ckermit1.uue (or anything) kerm_exe.uab kerm_exe.uac kerm_exe.uad kerm_exe.uae This is because uue named the files this when it split them. My problem was that I renamed them when I saved them from the USENET newsgroup. It wasn't until after I read the source code to uue/uud that I discovered how to rename the files to rebuild the original KERM_EXE.ARC file from its components. I haven't tried to decode the metafont files yets, but they must work the same way. By the way, I don't believe that the UNIX uuencode/uudecode splits large files into smaller files the way the DUMAS uue/uue programs do. About the ARC program. ARC521 has a bug which causes it to create ARCed files larged then the sum of the individual files in some cases. This has been witnessed extensively with the ST version of ARC521. The authoer of ARC521 denies that this problem exists, but it can be replicated with certain files. So, I don't want to upload the source code to ARC521 unless the author fixes that bug first. aaa a a a a aa
krieg@jupiter.uucp (Andrew Krieg) (10/11/89)
What does it mean when uudecode gives the message "short file"? Obviously it is an error of some sort, because the files extracted are cut off. I also sometimes get an error simply stated "Error 0". This occurs after a previous part has failed. Does uudecode add to a previous file sometimes? If I try to get the binary again, will it still fail, or is the error perhaps generated in the mail transfer? Any info is appreciated.