sshurr@wellesley.edu.UUCP (03/01/87)
Has anyone out there used GRID from TDI? This is a relational database engine from ETH in Zurich, and supposedly allows one to write Modula-2 programs to access a database. Information about any similar packages would also be appreciated. I'm looking for a package that will allow me to write my own C or Modula-2 programs to read text files and put them into a database, to edit the contents of the database, to create reports from the contents of the database, etc. Scott Shurr - Academic Computing | internet: sshurr@wellesley.edu Science Center, Wellesley College | phone: 617-235-0320 X3262 Wellesley, MA 02181 |
krieg@jupiter.uucp (Andrew Krieg) (10/11/89)
Are there any database packages for the ST that allow you to access the database through C programs (like Btrieve, etc. for the PC's)? I would like to use an SQL database if possible. The only SQL db for the ST that I have heard of is RegentBase. Does it provide these C 'hooks' that I need? Or is this a lost cause for ST development? ========================================================================= = = = The Atari Addict A. Krieg = = = = G.E. Medical Systems - CT - New Berlin, WI = = USENET: krieg@jupiter.med.ge.com = = = =========================================================================
ron@argus.UUCP (Ron DeBlock) (10/11/89)
In article <1179@mrsvr.UUCP> krieg@jupiter.uucp (Andrew Krieg) writes: >Are there any database packages for the ST that allow you to access the >database through C programs (like Btrieve, etc. for the PC's)? I would like >to use an SQL database if possible. The only SQL db for the ST that I have >heard of is RegentBase. Does it provide these C 'hooks' that I need? Or is >this a lost cause for ST development? >= = >= The Atari Addict A. Krieg = Regent (the RegentBase folks) sell the SQL Add On for GFA Basic. You can access it from C - I've done it. It is a memory hog - about 400K. Also, it is nowhere near full SQL. It works, tho, and it's cheap. I bought my copy from E. Arthur Brown for $25. It is supposed to be compatible with RegentBase files, but I can't comment on that since I don't have RegentBase. I'm not sure that posting works properly from this machine - let me know if this gets through. I'll upload a sample C program later, if this posting makes it. -- Ron DeBlock N2JSO ...!rutgers!galaxy!argus ron@wilbur.njit.edu
krieg@jupiter.uucp (Andrew Krieg) (10/12/89)
I tried to email this to you but that didn't work. Oh, well. To: ron@wilbur.njit.edu Subject: Re: Databases News-Path: mrsvr.UUCP!uwm.edu!rutgers!galaxy.rutgers.edu!argus!ron References: <1179@mrsvr.UUCP> <1307@argus.UUCP> Your message got through fine. I'd really like to see the C code, but I don't think it will be necessary to post it in the open forum. You could just email it to me. This programmers add-on does not require RegentBase? Do you mean it offers just a rudimentary set of tools. Do these tools allow you to create a database, or do you need RegentBase to do this? For $25 I wouldn't expect too much, but what do I know? 8^) Andrew Krieg
ron@argus.UUCP (Ron DeBlock) (10/13/89)
In article <1203@mrsvr.UUCP> krieg@jupiter.uucp (Andrew Krieg) writes: > >Your message got through fine. I'd really like to see the C code, but I >don't think it will be necessary to post it in the open forum. You could >just email it to me. > I'll post the code, it's not long. It's got a few hacks in it they others may find interesting. Note that I use Mark Williams C. The code is probably not directly portable as it depends on the order in which parameters are passed. You'll need to check on such things before using any other compiler, but you should have no trouble. >This programmers add-on does not require RegentBase? Do you mean it offers >just a rudimentary set of tools. Do these tools allow you to create a >database, or do you need RegentBase to do this? For $25 I wouldn't expect >too much, but what do I know? 8^) > >Andrew Krieg RegentBase is NOT required. Tool basically gives you one function by which you pass SQL statements and get back results. You can create tables and do queries, including the various types of joins. SELECTs which return multiple rows do not behave in the usual manner. Like you said, don't expect much. But for $25, it's a good hack. -- Ron DeBlock N2JSO ...!rutgers!galaxy!argus ron@wilbur.njit.edu
dm@pnet01.cts.com (Dan Melson) (10/13/89)
This is a repeated question. I'm in the market for a database, and having no
experience with them, would appreciate the views of the net on them. The more
specific and detailed, the better, of course.
I originally posted this about five days ago, and got exactly five responses,
three of which were 'could you let me know, too'. At this point, replies via
either e-mail or public means are more than welcome. Those of you who
maintained silence for fear of deluging the recipient are hereby invited to
attempt it. I'll summarize the e-mail responses I get.
DMandyc@hplsla.HP.COM (Andy Cassino) (10/14/89)
|This is a repeated question. I'm in the market for a database, and having no |experience with them, would appreciate the views of the net on them. The more |specific and detailed, the better, of course. | |I originally posted this about five days ago, and got exactly five responses, |three of which were 'could you let me know, too'. At this point, replies via |---------- Okay, okay! I refrained from answering because I just don't have that much experience with data bases. But I did buy Base2 by Antic a few months ago for my simple-minded home database needs, for which it works just fine. Strengths: GEM-based, uncomplicated, very easy to set-up the database records and reports, even if you only use it occasionally. Fast, since the whole database is loaded into RAM. The database record can be modified even after entries have been made. Overall - fun to use. Weaknesses: The size of the database is limited to the amount of available RAM you have, minus accessories, TSRs, caches, RAMdisks, desk managers, etc. For my uses on my Mega2, this will never be a problem. Biggest concern for me is that the database is not compatible with any of the standard big database programs, in case I ever want to upgrade to one. Other: A friend that tried Base2 was not happy with report formatting, tried DBman III (I think) and found it way too complicated, decided to roll his own. Hope this helps. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed herein are those solely of the author, who has no pecuniary interest in the companies mentioned. Copyright (c) 1989 by Andrew Cassino. All rights reserved. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Andy Cassino % % uucp: hplabs!hplsla!andyc domain: andyc%hplsla@hplabs.hp.com % % Hewlett-Packard Lake Stevens Instrument Division % % 8600 Soper Hill Road Everett, WA 98205-1298 % % (206) 335-2211 % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
krs@stag.UUCP (Kent Schumacher) (10/16/89)
[dm@pnet01.cts.com (Dan Melson) writes...] > This is a repeated question. I'm in the market for a database, and having no > experience with them, would appreciate the views of the net on them. The more > specific and detailed, the better, of course. > > I originally posted this about five days ago, and got exactly five responses, > three of which were 'could you let me know, too'. At this point, replies via > either e-mail or public means are more than welcome. Those of you who > maintained silence for fear of deluging the recipient are hereby invited to > attempt it. I'll summarize the e-mail responses I get. > > DM The most powerful data-base manager is DbMan. Along with that go ridiculous amounts of disk usage and access, the most pathetic user interface I've ever seen on an ST (it's almost as bad as most PC based applications), and a small number of bugs - some fatal - all work-aroundable. DbMan is usable if you have a hard-drive, at least one meg of memory, Turbo ST 1.6, and have used a PC extensively, or alternatively you periodically hit your head against hard objects. The only reason to buy it, is that it offers the most power to the user of all the data-bases I have any experience with. Try before you buy. (Also read a magazine review and get a look at the manual). I paid $150.00 for the thing. - Kent Schumacher /* "A member of STdNET- */ ardvar!krs@stag.UUCP /* The ST developers network */