MEGGIN@vm.epas.utoronto.ca (David Megginson) (10/21/89)
Actually, there is only one package using outline fonts on the ST, but
it's Calamus and not Publishing Partner. PP uses some rather pathetic
outline fonts on the printer, but it still uses raster fonts for the
screen. Furthermore, Calamus uses real, licensed Compugraphic fonts.
Besides, what's all this about? Apple is still developing its outline
font system. Certainly, a Mac can output to a Postscript device which
uses outline fonts, but so can an ST or IBM. Right now, Macs use
raster fonts just like GDOS, except the output resolution is not as
good on the imagewriter (I imagine). The only system I know of with
outline fonts is the NeXT, and the __only__ full DTP package with
outline screen fonts is still Calamus (Mac users, turn green with
envy!!!!!).
David Megginson, Centre for Medieval Studies, Torontostephen@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Stephen Whitney) (10/22/89)
In article <89Oct20.230647edt.57387@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca> MEGGIN@vm.epas.utoronto.ca (David Megginson) writes: [deleted] >Besides, what's all this about? Apple is still developing its outline >font system. Certainly, a Mac can output to a Postscript device which >uses outline fonts, but so can an ST or IBM. Right now, Macs use >raster fonts just like GDOS, except the output resolution is not as >good on the imagewriter (I imagine). The only system I know of with >outline fonts is the NeXT, and the __only__ full DTP package with >outline screen fonts is still Calamus (Mac users, turn green with >envy!!!!!). > David Megginson, Centre for Medieval Studies, Toronto The big advantage that the Mac has over the ST that could be corrected by outline screen and printer fonts is that the Mac can load and unload fonts as needed because of its automatically ejecting floppies (Insert System Disk). The ST loads all of its fonts when a program asks for them, but if you need to check fonts sizes on the printer fonts, you have to load evey one of them into memory. In addition, the Mac uses the same bitmapped fonts (albeit in different sizes) to do printer output so you don't have two different 12 point fonts stored in memory. Imagine how mnay Imagine how many fonts you could load if you just needed one outline for each typeface! Even with a large cache, we'd win. If anyone knows what the Mac does in better detail, feel free to correct me. Steve Whitney "It's never _really_ the last minute" (())_-_(()) UCLA Comp. Sci. Grad. Student | (* *) | Internet: stephen@cs.ucla.edu UCLA Bruin--> { \_@_/ } GEnie: S.WHITNEY `-----'
steve@thelake (Steve Yelvington) (10/23/89)
[stephen@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Stephen Whitney) writes...] > In article <89Oct20.230647edt.57387@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca > MEGGIN@vm.epas.utoronto.ca (David Megginson) writes: > [deleted] > >>Besides, what's all this about? Apple is still developing its outline >>font system. Certainly, a Mac can output to a Postscript device which >>uses outline fonts, but so can an ST or IBM. Right now, Macs use >>raster fonts just like GDOS, except the output resolution is not as >>good on the imagewriter (I imagine). The only system I know of with >>outline fonts is the NeXT, and the __only__ full DTP package with >>outline screen fonts is still Calamus (Mac users, turn green with >>envy!!!!!). >> David Megginson, Centre for Medieval Studies, Toronto > > The big advantage that the Mac has over the ST that could be corrected by > outline screen and printer fonts is that the Mac can load and unload fonts > as needed because of its automatically ejecting floppies (Insert System > Disk). The ST loads all of its fonts when a program asks for them, but if you > need to check fonts sizes on the printer fonts, you have to load evey one of > them into memory. In addition, the Mac uses the same bitmapped fonts > (albeit in different sizes) to do printer output so you don't have two > different 12 point fonts stored in memory. Floppies? (shudder...) You mean automatically jamming floppies, don't you? It's *so* much fun digging a floppy out of a Macintosh with a paper clip. > Imagine how mnay Imagine how many fonts you could load if you just needed one > outline for each typeface! Even with a large cache, we'd win. > As David pointed out, the ST already has an excellent publishing system with outline fonts. It would be great if Ditek (the folks who publish Calamus worldwide) would spin off the screen/font management system as a module that could be employed by other programs. By the way, whatever happened to the desktop publishing program Atari Corp. was supposed to be developing using Deskset and Compugraphic technology? I've seen sample output, but I've never seen an announcement of availability. Steve Yelvington, up at the lake in Minnesota ... pwcs.StPaul.GOV!stag!thelake!steve (Usenet) ... {playgrnd,moundst,class68}!thelake!steve (Citadel)