[comp.sys.atari.st] Laser C and FAST Problems

jjung@nunki.usc.edu (John Jung) (10/16/89)

  I have a question for all you hard drive and Laser C owners out there.

  Recently, I got an ICD FAST 50 meg hard drive. It performs fine, with the
exception that I can't run any software off the floppy (a 1040STfm) unless the
hard drive is on, and I disable the HD (using Shift-Control-Alt). Other people
have told me that the controller is a little flaky for this reason, but I'm not
worrying about it much, because it's only a slight hassle.

  Now for my problem. I have Laser C 2.0 on the hard drive, and I use it fairly
frequently. The problem is, whenever I do hard drive access with Laser C,
occassionally, the mouse will die on me, in that I can't move the mouse
pointer. Sometimes, the mouse's death is only minor, and I can use the keyboard
controls to control the pointer and leave Laser C, and sometimes the death is
major and nothing will move the mouse, in which case I simply have to reboot
the whole system.

  I have noticed that before the mouse dies, a string of characters (same
character in the string, but not the same character all the time) comes out on
the active Laser C window, and then Laser C pops up a dialog saying that I
should hit a key that is recognized by Laser C. Then the mouse dies.

  The mouse dying only happens with Laser C and not with other programs I use,
like Flash! or WordUp!.

  I use Superboot 5.5A along with the other ICD utilities (clock and boot up
program) to boot up my system. Also, I have no busy light (I can't get it to
work), and the hard drive seems to do occassional disk access, but I'm not
sure.

  What I want to know, is : Is this problem with Laser C common with other HD
users? With other FAST users? Or is it that my HD controller is flakier than I
thought, and that's what's causing all the problems (HD has to be on, to run
floppy, random HD access, and Laser C mouse death)? Or do I have an HD virus?

  Please post or E-mail and help you can give.

						John

depeche@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (Sam Alan EZUST) (10/25/89)

In article <5784@merlin.usc.edu> jjung@nunki.usc.edu (John Jung) writes:
>
>  Now for my problem. I have Laser C 2.0 on the hard drive, and I use it fairly
>frequently. The problem is, whenever I do hard drive access with Laser C,
>occassionally, the mouse will die on me, in that I can't move the mouse
>pointer. Sometimes, the mouse's death is only minor, and I can use the keyboard
>controls to control the pointer and leave Laser C, and sometimes the death is
>major and nothing will move the mouse, in which case I simply have to reboot
>the whole system.
>
>  I have noticed that before the mouse dies, a string of characters (same
>character in the string, but not the same character all the time) comes out on
>the active Laser C window, and then Laser C pops up a dialog saying that I
>should hit a key that is recognized by Laser C. Then the mouse dies.
>

I sometimes have the same problem, only less frequently now that I am not using
TURBODOS by Dominique Laurent and Atari France. I have Laser C 2.1 by the way.
Does anyone have a program which works like TURBODOS but has less
compatibility problems? I like it and until I get TOS 1.4 I could use a HD
speedup program.

Anyway, my advice to you is to get rid of any memory resident programs which
could possibly cause compatibility problems, such as ramdisks, speedup
programs, etc. Especially if you are using the original NOV 20 1985 ROMS.

I have a different problem though - whenever I GOTO a line, I lose the
mouse pointer... I can still do stuff with the mouse but I can't see where it
is pointing. I sent MEGAMAX a letter telling them this and haven't gotten
a response yet. This also happens with search/replace...


By the way, thanks to all who informed me that TUrbo C is available on the
ST. Actually I knew this already, but there are two factors which prevent
me from buying it.

1] The manual's in German and I don't know German.
2] It is TC 1.1 and does not include a SLDB which I really use a lot on
    Laser C 2.1

Once it is available on this wonderful continent of ours (tounge in cheek,
please note), and if I don't get any results from Megamax, Inc. I plan to 
TRASH this damned compiler and go Borland all the way (I hope someone
from Megamax is reading this - I need SUPPORT - that is what I pay $$$ for,
and you just got another $50 from me last month for the new version, so
I expect results....)

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