cmm1@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Christopher M Mauritz) (10/23/89)
I forgot who said that the TT was "available," but I could not help but snicker. I think the poor fellow mentioned something about the machine being shown at some show and the users raved about it, etc...ad nauseum. As I recall, the Atari CD ROM player was also shown to a wide-eyed and bushy-tailed group of enthusiasts SEVERAL YEARS AGO and where is it today? When the product is in a store where I can see/touch/buy (HAH!) it, then it is available. Until then it is vapor hype. Sure any clever fellow with a bit of money and some brains can put together a couple of nifty prototypes and show them around and brag, but production is another matter all together. I think Atari has shown their bungling ways long enough. Some people will just have to get hit over the head with a 520ST power supply before they see the light. It is worth noting, however, that Atari DID produce a nifty little MS-DOS (albeit DOS 2.1) box for PeeCee lovers and you CAN ACTUALLY purchase it. AND they did produce a nifty little handheld vieo game. Just goes to show you where their priorities lie. Hell, if there is more money to be made by making little gadgets instead of computers then why waste their time on the ST at all? It is/was a great computer, but the lack of support and lagging development has been dragging the ST line to the technological basement. Ahhh, but I still like it for Air Warrior. :-) Now, off into my ME262 I go. Wheeee! Chris Mauritz ------------------------------+--------------------------- Chris Mauritz |Where there's a BEER, cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu |there's a plan. (c)All rights reserved. | Send flames to /dev/null |Need I say more? ------------------------------+---------------------------
gl8f@astsun9.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) (10/23/89)
In article <CMM.0.88.625121816.cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu> cmm1@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: > I forgot who said that the TT was "available," but I could not help but > snicker. So much for flames to /dev/null. Listen, do you remember when earlier this year, and Atari spokesman said, "Ok, we're going to do a better job this time." Since then, they have announced: 1) The Porfolio. Shipping in the US. 2) The Stacy. Shipping in Europe. 3) The PC4. Shipping in europe? Samples in the US? 4) The ATW. Shipping in europe? Samples in the US? 5) The TT. 6) The STE. 7) The Lynx. Sounds like they have been doing a better job than in the past. Tell you what, why don't we postpone this discussion for 4 months. If, at that point, Atari hasn't delivered the TT or STE or Lynx, then flame them for it once. Then shut up. We'll all be much happier. ------ Greg Lindahl gl8f@virginia.edu I'm not the NRA.
ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu (Enartloc Nhoj) (10/24/89)
In article <2161@hudson.acc.virginia.edu>, gl8f@astsun9.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) writes: > In article <CMM.0.88.625121816.cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu> cmm1@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: > > > I forgot who said that the TT was "available," but I could not help but > > snicker. > > > 1) The Porfolio. Shipping in the US. > 2) The Stacy. Shipping in Europe. > 3) The PC4. Shipping in europe? Samples in the US? > 4) The ATW. Shipping in europe? Samples in the US? > 5) The TT. > 6) The STE. > 7) The Lynx. > > Sounds like they have been doing a better job than in the past. Tell > you what, why don't we postpone this discussion for 4 months. If, at that > point, Atari hasn't delivered the TT or STE or Lynx, then flame them for > it once. Then shut up. ^^^^^^^ That's not nice... > We'll all be much happier. > Greg Lindahl Four more months! That's all? Let's see...???? I can wait that, easily! After all, i've waited since June of '86 when my dealer told me that ATARI was coming out with the TT and that it would stick on the back of my 1040ST. So that will be less than 4 years total! Not bad ATARI! "Sounds like they have been doing a better job..." BTW: does it matter to anyone in the USA or in CANADA what is being shipped in Europe? Turbo C by Borland lives in Europe... Lots of neat stuff hangs out in Europe... May not be a bad place to live, either.... -kevin alright.. don't everyone start sending me EMIgration papers... Why do I get the feeling that the people who are flaming me for not having a TT on my desk own stock in ATARI?
4224_5132@uwovax.uwo.ca (Andrew Semple) (10/24/89)
In article <4167@blake.acs.washington.edu>, ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu (Enartloc Nhoj) writes:> ^^^^^^^ > > After all, i've waited since June of '86 when my dealer told me > that ATARI was coming out with the TT and that it would stick on the > back of my 1040ST. So that will be less than 4 years total! > Not bad ATARI! > You fell for that old one?!! There is a difference between rumor and an idea about to come to market. > Why do I get the feeling that the people who are flaming me > for not having a TT on my desk own stock in ATARI? All I ask for is that we give Atari as many fair chances as possible. If Atari goes down in flames, it is because of bad management and no support from the public. If the public supports, the bad management usually works out. If the public doesn't support, bye bye Atari, bye bye new ideas, bye bye change.... -------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Semple ads@uwovax.uwo.ca 2nd Year Applied Math/Computer Science Andrew.Semple@uwovax.uwo.ca The University of Western Ontario Semple@uwovax.BITNET London, Ontario Canada
ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu (Enartloc Nhoj) (10/25/89)
In article <3979.25443723@uwovax.uwo.ca> 4224_5132@uwovax.uwo.ca (Andrew Semple) writes: > All I ask for is that we give Atari as many fair chances as possible. If >Atari goes down in flames, it is because of bad management and no support >from the public. If the public supports, the bad management usually works >out. If the public doesn't support, bye bye Atari, bye bye new ideas, >bye bye change.... > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >2nd Year Applied Math/Computer Science Andrew.Semple@uwovax.uwo.ca Do they teach logic in your math department? After that, sign up for a business class... They should off a course in basic economics at your university... If they don't, just stop and think a bit... I like your spirit, however... -ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu
dnewton@carroll1.UUCP (Dave 'C is cool, but what about LOGO?' Newton) (10/26/89)
In article <3979.25443723@uwovax.uwo.ca> 4224_5132@uwovax.uwo.ca (Andrew Semple) writes: > All I ask for is that we give Atari as many fair chances as possible. If >Atari goes down in flames, it is because of bad management and no support >from the public. If the public supports, the bad management usually works >out. If the public doesn't support, bye bye Atari, bye bye new ideas, >bye bye change.... BZZZZ! Wrong. The people that have Atari's _DO_ support them, this is the _only_ reason they are here. That _DOES NOT_ insure Atari's continued semi- success in the States. Third party support, _AD CAMPAIGN'S_ would _really_ help a _lot_, maybe even some product announcements from Atari that were true (btw, good job on the PC hand-held and the Lynx (if we see it), even though I don't want one, ya' done good) like the TT, or the Transputer workstation. Someone complained about the TT being less-than-advanced, but really, little is these days. I think it's a step in the right direction if it ever gets out and into _our_ hands. Oh well, enough underlines for a day. -- David L. Newton | uunet!marque!carroll1!dnewton | The Raging Apostle-- (414) 524-7343 (work) | dnewton@carroll1.cc.edu | for the future-- (414) 524-6809 (home) | 100 NE Ave, Waukesha WI 53186 | for the world. "Isn't it fun to take two unrelated sentences and mix the batter lightly?" -me