[comp.sys.atari.st] Atari, Mac and Amiga vs the PC

01659@AECLCR.BITNET (Greg Csullog) (11/14/89)

Time and time again,  we see postings about cheap '386 boxes. Yeah,
there are lots of cheap '286 boxes out there as well.  However, for
some  reason  people keep focussing on the hardware and  its  price
when its the software that determines how good your computer is.

Sure you can get DesqView and Windows for the PC and multitask; but
multitask what?  A whole mess of unrelated codes, developed without
a  common  interface and with no ability to swap data  unless  some
kind of file importing routine is run.

Try turning a Window based environment loose on a secretary who has
a grade 12 education and limited computing skills.  How long  would
it take to train the secretary to use WordPerfect,  dBASE and LOTUS
and to port information back and forth?

The company I work for standardized on Mass 11 as a word processor,
20/20  as a spreadsheet and ORACLE as the database.  Ever  hear  of
Mass 11 and 20/20?  Unfortunately I have.  Sure ORACLE is  powerful
but  it  takes LOTS of training to use  it  effectively.  The  same
company  also  promoted  PCs as the  standard  computer  for  years
(before it became VAX crazed). We are stuck with a legacy of LOTUS,
WordPerfect  and dBASE training courses.  The effort and  $$$  that
have gone into training for PCs and VAX systems is staggering!

The company also has Ataris,  Amigas and Macs on site.  No training
courses  are  offered  AND NONE ARE  NEEDED.  These  user  friendly
machines, each with its own standard interface for all the software
written for it, do not require training support like the PCs do.

Once again netters,  YOU do not represent the majority of users  in
the  world.  Quite simply,  until the PC world finally gets a  user
interface  that truly dominates the market and for which there  are
lots  of software packages that conform to the  interface  standard
(which  seems  to be happening for Windows) you can take  all  your
'286 and '386 machines and @#%@$#@$%#%$ with them because they just
cannot measure up to machines that have standardized interfaces and
integrated software that is easy to learn,  easy to use and FUN  to
use.

Go  ahead and bash Atari that the TT is not on the streets  yet.  I
would  rather wait until hell freezes over than buy a '386 and  use
the myriad of EXPENSIVE and unrelated PC codes that are out there.

Do  not  come  back and accuse me of not  knowing  about  PC  stuff
because I am the PC support person in my work group.  I have had my
fill of getting PC codes to talk to HP LaserJets,  of teaching Word
Perfect,  and  configuring  software (What monitor do  you  have...
followed  by a list that no beginner has any  knowledge  of).  Just
yesterday  I  was  asked to get Grapher to  talk  to  a  postscript
configured HP LaserJet and because Grapher talks to the user in ITS
own way, I had to sift through menus I had never seen before to set
up the system. Damn, NO STANDARD INTERFACE AGAIN!!!!!

I  also  have  the pleasure of being a Mac  and  an  Atari  support
person.  Do you know what that involves?  Answering questions about
new  software  (have  you seen it?  is  it  good?).  None  of  this
installation,  set up and teaching,  teaching and re-teaching  crap
like PC support involves.

Dear  '286  and  '386 people;  stop pestering us  about  your  FAST
machines because in overall productivity your machines just do  not
cut it.  You have already accepted a substandard system; Mac, Atari
and Amiga users refuse to do the same.

Disclamer:  I have never OWNED a PC (but I have had the unfortunate
job  of using them for years) and considering the current  software
state  in  the PC world I cannot see owning one for  a  long,  long
time.