[comp.sys.atari.st] TOS 1.4 Incompatibility List Request

bmaraldo@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Commander Brett Maraldo) (11/12/89)

Can somebody post or email me an updated TOS 1.4 incompatibility list?
I am considering purchasing TOS1.4 ROMs - is it worth it?

Brett L Maraldo



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jmorton@euler.Berkeley.EDU (John Morton) (11/14/89)

In article <130@watserv1.waterloo.edu> bmaraldo@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Commander Brett Maraldo) writes:
>Can somebody post or email me an updated TOS 1.4 incompatibility list?
>I am considering purchasing TOS1.4 ROMs - is it worth it?
>

I have been trying to keep my list up to date, but I have found that
most entries have been contested by subsequent postings.  The following
is where it stands now, with all entries removed which were cited as
running flawlessly by someone.

Chessmaster 2000 - bombs on save
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing
PC Ditto v. 3.01 - (some disagreement on this, unresolved)
compress.ttp - comp.binaries - (disagreement here also)
VIP Professional, GEM version - pallette problems
Timeworks DTP
Mousetrap
Omnires 3.01
Baal
ST Wars
Zoo
Arkanoid


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stephen@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Steve Whitney) (11/14/89)

In article <19506@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> jmorton@euler.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (John Morton) writes:
>I have been trying to keep my list up to date, but I have found that
>most entries have been contested by subsequent postings.  The following
>is where it stands now, with all entries removed which were cited as
>running flawlessly by someone.
>
[list deleted]

>Timeworks DTP

This works great on my Rainbow TOSsed 520.

[rest of list trashed]


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> We hear the sound of machines..."			Univ. of Calif.	


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andyc@hplsla.HP.COM (Andy Cassino) (11/15/89)

I guess I have an entry for the TOS 1.4 incompatibility list - Turtle 3.0!
There seems to be a problem creating and deleting folders in TRAMDISK (as
reported by TTLEXEC). I have tried the newest TRAMDISK from GENIE and 
it doesn't work either.

Now, I'm seeking suggestions for a good back up program! Anybody know about
Codehead's FASTBACK?

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woodside@ttidca.TTI.COM (George Woodside) (11/15/89)

In article <5440079@hplsla.HP.COM> andyc@hplsla.HP.COM (Andy Cassino) writes:
>I guess I have an entry for the TOS 1.4 incompatibility list - Turtle 3.0!
>There seems to be a problem creating and deleting folders in TRAMDISK (as
>reported by TTLEXEC). I have tried the newest TRAMDISK from GENIE and 
>it doesn't work either.

There must be more to this than TOS 1.4. I have been using 3.0 with TOS 1.4
for several months, without so much as a hiccup.

Incidentally, the new RAMdisk on GEnie is aimed at a single specific
problem, which occurs with version 4.0 and higher of ICD's disk driver.
It has no impact on anything else. It is backward compatible with all
other systems.
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7103_2622@uwovax.uwo.ca (Eric Smith) (11/16/89)

In article <5440079@hplsla.HP.COM>, andyc@hplsla.HP.COM (Andy Cassino) writes:
> I guess I have an entry for the TOS 1.4 incompatibility list - Turtle 3.0!
> There seems to be a problem creating and deleting folders in TRAMDISK (as
> reported by TTLEXEC). I have tried the newest TRAMDISK from GENIE and 
> it doesn't work either.

Are you running Atari's CACHEXXX program? I had a friend who had the
problem you described, and it went away when he took the cache out of
his auto folder. It seems Turtle does some low level disk accesses that
can make the cache confused.
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andyc@hplsla.HP.COM (Andy Cassino) (11/17/89)

|>I guess I have an entry for the TOS 1.4 incompatibility list - Turtle 3.0!
|>There seems to be a problem creating and deleting folders in TRAMDISK (as
|>reported by TTLEXEC). I have tried the newest TRAMDISK from GENIE and 
|>it doesn't work either.
|
|There must be more to this than TOS 1.4. I have been using 3.0 with TOS 1.4
|for several months, without so much as a hiccup.
|
|Incidentally, the new RAMdisk on GEnie is aimed at a single specific
|problem, which occurs with version 4.0 and higher of ICD's disk driver.
|It has no impact on anything else. It is backward compatible with all
|other systems.
|-- 
|*George R. Woodside - Citicorp/TTI - Santa Monica, CA 
|*Path:       ..!{philabs|csun|psivax}!ttidca!woodside
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Well, looks I'd better go try it again! I've already had a couple of rounds
at it, but I'm still missing something.

I am using ICDBOOT.PRG 4.2.0. I have tried disabling all my AUTO programs and
ACC's. I tried disabling the boot program's cache (this previously allowed
me to use TURTLE with ICDBOOT 4.1.8 in TOS 1.2).

I will have another go at it tonight. I'll try all the above again, and then
try going back to earlier versions of ICDBOOT. Guess I'll even try booting
off of floppy. Something's gotta work!

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andyc@hplsla.HP.COM (Andy Cassino) (11/18/89)

Yay, I got Turtle running last night. The problem was the DOS/FAT buffers in
the ICD boot program. Once their size was set to 0, everything ran fine. This
lines up with reports of conflicts with CACHENNN, which also uses DOS/FAT
buffers.

Thanks for everybodys' help on this!

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matthews@umd5.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) (11/18/89)

In article <5440079@hplsla.HP.COM> andyc@hplsla.HP.COM (Andy Cassino) writes:
>I guess I have an entry for the TOS 1.4 incompatibility list - Turtle 3.0!

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Try disabling cachexxx.prg; works fine with TOS 1.4 as long as you don't use
cachexxx.

Mike