[comp.sys.atari.st] Lattice C v5

dat_08@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Jared Brennan) (11/29/89)

In article <2455@stl.stc.co.uk> "David Price" <dhp@stl.stc.co.uk> writes:
>Apparently Lattice have a C++ *translator* for the Amiga but do not
>intend to release it on the ST until they see how well version 5 of
>their C compiler sells (in UK, Europe, USA ?).
>
>David Price, dhp@stl.stc.co.uk
>STC Technology Ltd., London Road, Harlow CM17 9NA,England.

     I confess to a great deal of dismay at seeing this.  Like, huh?
Lattice C v5?  For the ST?  Or for the Amiga only?  Metacomco has been
very good about announcing updates, even for their overseas customers,
such as yours truly, and if there is a Lattice C v5 for the ST, well,
geez, I'm really disappointed they didn't send me a missive or two.
Perhaps if you clarify this point I can return to my usual paranoid
depressive state and stop worrying about where I'll be spending my
money next.  Thanks in advance . . .
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RiddCJ@computer-science.birmingham.ac.UK (Chris Ridd) (11/30/89)

  The reason Metacomco hasn't announced any updates to Lattice C (or any of
their stuff), is because ... they have quit the software market.  I believe
the owner now runs a hotel :-(
  HiSoft have taken over Lattice C - v5 is advertised as producing very
fast code, >2000 Dhrystones/sec!!  Hopefully they will give better support
than Metacomco ever did...  I'm not sure, but I think you can upgrade from
MCC v3 to HiSoft v5 at a cost.

    Chris

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dbsuther@PacBell.COM (Daniel B. Suthers) (12/05/89)

In article <8911301233.aa02350@benjamin.Cs.Bham.AC.UK> RiddCJ@computer-science.birmingham.ac.UK (Chris Ridd) writes:
>
>  The reason Metacomco hasn't announced any updates to Lattice C (or any of
>their stuff), is because ... they have quit the software market.  I believe
>the owner now runs a hotel :-(
>  HiSoft have taken over Lattice C - v5 
[ text deleted ]
>I'm not sure, but I think you can upgrade from MCC v3 to HiSoft v5 at a cost.


Is there any confirmation on this rummor?
I have spent a lot of time getting Lattice to be relatively bug free, and don't
wish to switch compilers now.

Does anyone have the address for HiSoft?  Are they American, or de we have 
to put up with the six week trans atlantic mail delay?

Last question:  is HiSoft V5 an upgrade to lattice, or just a replacement?  The
difference is obvious to those who have extensive private code libraries.


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dac@ukc.ac.uk (David Clear) (12/10/89)

In article <31162@pbhya.PacBell.COM> dbsuther@PacBell.COM (Daniel B. Suthers) writes:
[ About HiSoft taking over Lattice C.]
>
>Is there any confirmation on this rummor?
>I have spent a lot of time getting Lattice to be relatively bug free, and don't
>wish to switch compilers now.
>
>Does anyone have the address for HiSoft?  Are they American, or de we have 
>to put up with the six week trans atlantic mail delay?
>
>Last question:  is HiSoft V5 an upgrade to lattice, or just a replacement?  The
>difference is obvious to those who have extensive private code libraries.
>

I got a newsletter from HiSoft in October. This is what it said about
Lattice C:

-- START --

HiSoft & Lattice get together!
------------------------------

HiSoft is delighted to announce the forthcoming release of the Lattice C
compiler on the Atari ST.

Lattice C 5 is currently only available on the Amiga, where is has received
high praise - its code generation is one of the fastest and most compact yet
seen on microcomputers.

Now, HiSoft and Lattice are porting the package to the Atari ST and taking the
opportunity to add extra features to produce a product that will bring the very
latest C compiler technology to the Atari ST, generating the best code ever
seen from any Atari C compiler.

The version 5 compiler has many improvements over Lattice 3, including:

+  Powerful compiler generating native code, with complete ANSI conformance.

+  High performance global optimiser for removing redundant code from your
   programs.

+  Standard assembler for including assembly language in compiled code.

+  Fast linker with many features including automatic branch extension (for
   out of range branches).

+  Librarian for examining and constructing libraries quickly and easily.

+  Disassembler so you can check the code the compiler has generated and hand
   optimise if needed.

+  Complete time sliced profiler for locating the `hot-spots' in your code.

+  Fully integrated HiSoft environment, with complete configurability.

+  Lattice 3, Lattice 5, ANSI, UN*X, AES, VDI, BIOS, XBIOS, GEMDOS and Line A
   libraries, the most complete libraries ever.

Lattice C 5 on the Atari ST will be released in November 1989 at an
introductorary price of 99.95 (pounds sterling) inclusive. We expect a high
demand for this product and will process orders strictly by date received -
place your orders now.

--END --

I don't know about HiSoft in other countries, but in the UK, their address is:

HiSoft,
The Old School,
Greenfield,
Bedford,
MK45 5DE,
UK.

From UK:
	Tel: (0525) 718181
	Fax: (0525) 713716

From elsewhere:
	Tel: +44 525 718181
	Fax: +44 525 713716


Oh yes,

1. I have no connection to HiSoft - I'm just a registered user of their
   DevpacST assembler.

2. I don't know if Lattice 5 has been released yet. Maybe when I can afford
   a memory upgrade I'll start thinking about C programming on the ST.

3. The 99.95 introductorary price may still hold - I really don't know. Nor
   do I know the US cost.

4. I don't know much, do I :-)

Disclaimer:
     I just read all that stuff from a newsletter and my eyesight and typing
aren't faultless. So don't blame me if Lattice 5 turns out to be Xenon III :-(


Dave.

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D.C.Halliday@newcastle.ac.uk (D.C. Halliday) (12/11/89)

As far as I know Lattice c v5 is out and about, It has been advatised
in ST world (the serious only mag from the UK).