01659@AECLCR.BITNET (Greg Csullog) (12/21/89)
One netter referred to the loneliness in the Atari community. Dear U.S. netters, the U.S. is one country, not the world! There are lots of places in the world where ST users are not lonely. Just because the ST is not big in the U.S. does not mean you should assume that life is miserable for ST users everywhere. Some of us do quite well, thank you very much.
news@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU (Michael Murphy) (12/24/89)
The thing I want to know about Atari, that NOBODY has been able to explain to me so far, is why it seems to be ignoring the US? WHY dont we have good advertising? Why dont we have good support? WHY can't the few dealers we have out there seem to get the products in any reasonable length of time? What is the problem? The ST is a great machine, and I am happy I have one, but I am angry at the way the ST users are treated. Any questions/comments? From: cr1@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Christopher Roth) Path: beach.cis.ufl.edu!cr1 -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= * Christoper Roth * This message is NOT for * InterNet : cr1@beach.cis.ufl.edu * GENIE's use! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Post No Bills-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
austin@cs.odu.edu (Jason C Austin) (12/24/89)
In article <21566@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> cr1@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Chris Roth) writes: >The thing I want to know about Atari, that NOBODY has been able to >explain to me so far, is why it seems to be ignoring the US? WHY dont >we have good advertising? Why dont we have good support? WHY can't >the few dealers we have out there seem to get the products in any >reasonable length of time? What is the problem? The ST is a great >machine, and I am happy I have one, but I am angry at the way the ST >users are treated. Any questions/comments? >From: cr1@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Christopher Roth) >Path: beach.cis.ufl.edu!cr1 I think the reason is just simple economics from Atari's point of view. The ST has had a much better selling rate in the European market; therefore, the demand for additional hardware and software is higher. Logically, Atari is going to spend most of its advertising and distrubution dollars where the demand is. This is unfortunate for US ST owners, but the company needs to do what it can to survive. -Jason(austin@cs.odu.edu)
katzung@i88.isc.com (Brian Katzung) (01/09/90)
In article <10809@xanth.cs.odu.edu> austin@cs.odu.edu (Jason C Austin) writes: |In article <21566@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> cr1@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Chris Roth) writes: |>The thing I want to know about Atari, that NOBODY has been able to |>explain to me so far, is why it seems to be ignoring the US? WHY dont |>we have good advertising? A very good question. I get the impression that they are being sabotaged by stupid internal politics. | I think the reason is just simple economics from Atari's point |of view. The ST has had a much better selling rate in the European |market; therefore, the demand for additional hardware and software is |higher. Logically, Atari is going to spend most of its advertising |and distrubution dollars where the demand is. This is unfortunate for |US ST owners, but the company needs to do what it can to survive. This seems rather short-sighted to me (nothing personal, Jason). I believe that advertising in the US would generate substantial demand, which, in turn, would justify the expenditure. Unfortunately, I don't think they can start with a small investment. I think they need to make a BIG splash in order to get attention and get into the market in any serious way. I sure wish they would. -- Brian Katzung Disclaimer: These opinions are my own personal opinions and do not necessarily reflect those of anybody else.
matthews@umd5.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) (01/10/90)
In article <1990Jan8.195522.5078@i88.isc.com> katzung@i88.isc.com (Brian Katzung) writes: [stuff deleted] >This seems rather short-sighted to me (nothing personal, Jason). I >believe that advertising in the US would generate substantial demand, >which, in turn, would justify the expenditure. Unfortunately, I don't >think they can start with a small investment. I think they need to >make a BIG splash in order to get attention and get into the market in >any serious way. I sure wish they would. > > -- Brian Katzung Since the US needs to be seriously educated about Atari, especially because they already have a negative image (so you aren't starting from zero, you have to get yourself out of the whole FIRST before you can do any positive stuff), it would take a mighty big splash, costing a mighty large amount of $$$, of which Atari probably can not afford to spend. You can't get the greater returns if you can't put up the capital.
a23@mindlink.UUCP (Joel Murray) (01/14/90)
> scott writes: > > Msg-ID: <1216@jpusa1.UUCP> > Posted: 14 Jan 90 16:02:25 GMT > > Org. : JPUSA - Chicago, IL > Person: Scott Van Court > > > --Well Atari miht know what Commadore found out. The siz able ad blitz over > theholidays cost them alot and was a flop. I'm not sur > e the answer is just > large ads. If it is it would take a long time and alot of money to be > effective. > Scott > > scott How do you know that the "siz able ad blitz" [sic] was a flop? From all indications, it's too early to tell how well or how poorly Comm_o_dore did. -- // /// CIS: 73200,3117 \X/oel ///urray Usenet: a23@mindlink.UUCP
scott@jpusa1.UUCP (Scott Van Court) (01/15/90)
--Well Atari miht know what Commadore found out. The siz able ad blitz over theholidays cost them alot and was a flop. I'm not sure the answer is just large ads. If it is it would take a long time and alot of money to be effective. Scott scott
SPLITE@MTUS5.BITNET (Steve Plite) (01/15/90)
In article <932@mindlink.UUCP>, a23@mindlink.UUCP (Joel Murray) says: > > >How do you know that the "siz able ad blitz" [sic] was a flop? From all >indications, it's too early to tell how well or how poorly Comm_o_dore did. > >-- > // /// CIS: 73200,3117 > \X/oel ///urray Usenet: a23@mindlink.UUCP > What is this? The Comm_o_dore Paranoia Squad? :-)