[comp.sys.atari.st] HD... is it there or not?

baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) (01/18/90)

	HELP!

	I am building a drive for my ST:  I am using an old xt case w/ 63 wattt
power supply, Quantum Prodrive80, and an ICD host controller.  I have assembled
the unit; the drive powers up and the ICD format software boots the clock info
from the host controller.  The problem is, when the software scans for a SCSI
device (the Quantum has an imbedded SCSI controller), it cannot find any SCSI
devices.  I know the drive works because I had a friend format it on a MacII
and run a surface scan (and found NO errors).  Can anyone think of a reasonable
reason why the drive should not respond?

	By the way, it DOES have the chip fix installed.


	BIG thanks to anyone who can help me with this problem.


Mike Baffoni

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Just when I thought it was in my grasp - no more "out of room on disk" errors."
       ..........  The drive was not complete.

       AAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggg.
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wallace@oldtmr.dec.com (Ray Wallace) (01/19/90)

In article <7457@chaph.usc.edu>, baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) writes...
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>	I am building a drive for my ST:  I am using an old xt case w/ 63 wattt
				...
>from the host controller.  The problem is, when the software scans for a SCSI
>device (the Quantum has an imbedded SCSI controller), it cannot find any SCSI

Are you sure that the 12v portion of the power supply is sufficiant for the
drive? Does it sound like the drive spun up? You could check the 12v and 5v
supplies at the drive.

Try replacing the SCSI cable and/or ohm it out for continuity and shorts. Even
if it ohms out ok the connections at the connectors may make and break when
the cable is move. Meaning, replacing the cable is the only sure test.

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econadm5@watserv1.waterloo.edu (BENTLEY BH - ECONOMICS) (01/19/90)

In article <7457@chaph.usc.edu> baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) writes:
>
>	HELP!
>
>	I am building a drive for my ST:  I am using an old xt case w/ 63 wattt
>power supply, Quantum Prodrive80, and an ICD host controller.  I have assembled
>the unit; the drive powers up and the ICD format software boots the clock info
>from the host controller.  The problem is, when the software scans for a SCSI
>device (the Quantum has an imbedded SCSI controller), it cannot find any SCSI
>devices.  I know the drive works because I had a friend format it on a MacII
>and run a surface scan (and found NO errors).  Can anyone think of a reasonable
>reason why the drive should not respond?

 From what I gather it sounds like you may have your device ID set wrong on the
 hard drive itself. Make sure its set for drive 0, as most drives start there.
 Your software on the ICD host adapter at the bottom right hand corner tells
 you what device # your give to your drive. I think it starts at 1. Regardless
 just reread everything on the Device ID in the software manual. Also SCSI
 imbedded drives have to use the SCSI drivers made specifically for this drive.
 It doesnt work the same as the regular hard drives that come with external
 controllers, from what Ive heard. So call ICD Technical Support and they
 will give more help as well. Sometimes if its not an ID or Driver problem,
 look at your cabling and make sure you have hooked up J0 on the host with
 your hard drive, and not J1 as so many mistakenly do. Last of all if all
 else fails reconnect all cables, making sure for proper connection.

 Dave Tomesch, PS. Tell ICD Mr. Fusion sent you!  Ask for Howard.
 "Never say Never"
 

hyc@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Howard Chu) (01/19/90)

Make sure you've set the jumper to disable parity. I don't have a manual
handy, so I don't remember which pin it is, but I had this exact same
problem with my Quantum when first trying to install it. The ST doesn't
use parity on the SCSI bus, but many devices have parity enabled by default.
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