ad@cat.UUCP (Axel Dunkel) (01/06/90)
Can anyone give me a hint to a nice (preferable PD) terminal program? It
should be able to handle Z-Modem downloads, emulate at least ANSI or vt100
terminals, and if it had a script language, I would not mind :-)
Is there such a beast somewhere? Could someone even mail it to me or give me a
hint to an archive server?
Thanx a lot in advance...
Axel
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Axel Dunkel (ad@cat.UUCP)
C.A.T. Kommunikations-System, West Germany
--------------------------------------------------------------------------ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu (Enartloc Nhoj) (01/07/90)
In article <2816@cat.UUCP> ad@cat.UUCP (Axel Dunkel) writes: > >Can anyone give me a hint to a nice (preferable PD) terminal program? It >should be able to handle Z-Modem downloads, emulate at least ANSI or vt100 >terminals, and if it had a script language, I would not mind :-) > >Is there such a beast somewhere? Could someone even mail it to me or give me a >hint to an archive server? > > Axel Dunkel (ad@cat.UUCP) zmdm ftp terminator.cc.umich.edu I am sure other sites have this excellent program too. -kevin ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu
cr1@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Christopher Roth) (01/07/90)
In article <2816@cat.UUCP> ad@cat.UUCP (Axel Dunkel) writes: > >Can anyone give me a hint to a nice (preferable PD) terminal program? It >should be able to handle Z-Modem downloads, emulate at least ANSI or vt100 >terminals, and if it had a script language, I would not mind :-) > >Is there such a beast somewhere? Could someone even mail it to me or give me a >hint to an archive server? > Hi there... I use Uniterm 2.0e quite a bit. It has very good vt200 emulation, as well as others. It has kermit, xmodem, and ymodem downloading. I haven't been able to find a terminal program that has zmodem for the ST, but there is a pretty good zmodem shell out there. Both Uniterm and Zmodem 1.8 are PD, so that fits your bill. Me, all I want is to get UW (unix windows) to work. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= * Christoper Roth * "Machines have no * InterNet : cr1@beach.cis.ufl.edu * Conscience..." =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Post No Bills-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
silvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill Silvert) (01/07/90)
In article <21634@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> cr1@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Chris Roth) writes: >In article <2816@cat.UUCP> ad@cat.UUCP (Axel Dunkel) writes: >>Can anyone give me a hint to a nice (preferable PD) terminal program? It >>should be able to handle Z-Modem downloads, emulate at least ANSI or vt100 >>terminals, and if it had a script language, I would not mind :-) >I use Uniterm 2.0e quite a bit. It has very good vt200 emulation, as well >as others. It has kermit, xmodem, and ymodem downloading. I haven't >been able to find a terminal program that has zmodem for the ST, but >there is a pretty good zmodem shell out there. Both Uniterm and Zmodem >1.8 are PD, so that fits your bill. The program ZMDM (now in version 1.6) by Bammi and coworkers at Case WRU supports Y and Zmodem. Although I have UniTerm and think that it is a great program, because of its size and complexity I use it only when I need the graphics support. The new version of ZMDM has the feature that you can install it as an application and run it by just clicking on a small file containing a phone directory. I have been using ZMDM for years and find it virtually bulletproof (I had to make a minor hack to get it to support pulse dialing, but that is my only problem). It is not a GEM application, so you can run it from a shell too. -- Bill Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division. Bedford Institute of Oceanography, Dartmouth, NS, Canada B2Y 4A2 UUCP: ...!{uunet,watmath}!dalcs!biomel!bill Internet: bill%biomel@cs.dal.CA BITNET: bill%biomel%dalcs@dalac
depeche@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (Sam Alan EZUST) (01/08/90)
In article <2816@cat.UUCP> ad@cat.UUCP (Axel Dunkel) writes: > >Can anyone give me a hint to a nice (preferable PD) terminal program? It >should be able to handle Z-Modem downloads, emulate at least ANSI or vt100 >terminals, and if it had a script language, I would not mind :-) > St-term satisfies all of the above requirements with the exception of being a script language. Perhaps I should learn how to submit something to an archive server.... but I did it before, and I suppose I can do it again... if you want it, mail me, and I will mail it to you. -- S. Alan Ezust depeche@calvin.cs.mcgill.ca McGill University Department of Computer Science - Montreal, Quebec, Canada
klute@trillian (01/08/90)
Path: trillian !klute In article <2816@cat.UUCP> ad@cat.UUCP (Axel Dunkel) writes: >Can anyone give me a hint to a nice (preferable PD) terminal program? It >should be able to handle Z-Modem downloads, emulate at least ANSI or vt100 >terminals, and if it had a script language, I would not mind :-) Uniterm, definitly. It should be available at info-server@unido.uucp. Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute klute@heike.informatik.uni-dortmund.de Univ. Dortmund, IRB klute@unido.uucp, klute@unido.bitnet Postfach 500500 |)|/ ...uunet!mcvax!unido!klute D-4600 Dortmund 50 |\|\ Tel.: +49 231 755-4663
hedger@inmet.inmet.com (01/08/90)
One more vote for Uniterm.....it's great. ===================================================================== | | | Keith Hedger : {...!}uunet!inmet!hedger hedger@inmet.inmet.com | | 'It is a sad, but beautiful world..........' | =====================================================================
adp1@rosemary.cs.reading.ac.uk (Andrew Pollard) (01/10/90)
I would like to have Zmodem. Is it possible for someone to post it to the binaries or sources group, as I can not ftp from reading, U.K. Andrew Pollard.
covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) (01/12/90)
In article <1975@onion.reading.ac.uk>, adp1@rosemary.cs.reading.ac.uk (Andrew Pollard) writes: > I would like to have Zmodem. > > Is it possible for someone to post it to the binaries or sources group, > as I can not ftp from reading, U.K. > > Andrew Pollard. About a month ago I found a new version of ZMODEM named ZMDM163 that attempts to fix the infamous Zmodem upload to Forem ST boards. Anyway, it does allow full speed uploads with the US Robotics HST 14400 modem (I have seen 1600 cps files uploads to a Forem ST board). But, the authors of this latest version did not leave their name of a way to connect them. Neither did they release the source code to their version 1.63. All I know is that they are called "The ST Enthusiats" (sp??). There are two bugs in version 1.63 that I would like to correct. The first is that 1.63 fails to correctly start the upload transfer when you are uploading a file to a Forem ST board which has the older TOS 1.0/1.2 ROMS. 1.63 works fine when uploading to a Forem ST board running TOS 1.4 (haven't seen any boards with an STe running TOS 1.6 yet :-) ). So, I need the source code to fix this. Also, I would like to add other file extenders to the BINARY transfer mode, such as ZOO and ZIP. I keep losing ZOO files from my UNIX account when I use ZMODEM !!! So, if anyone know who the "ST Enthusiats" are or if you have the source code to the ZMDM163 version please send me email!! TIA. -- Richard E. Covert, Lead Engineer of Software Tools Group AG Communications Systems, Phoenix AZ (602) - 581-4652 TCP/IP: covertr@gtephx UUCP: {ncar!noao!asuvax | uunet!zardoz!hrc | att}!gtephx!covertr
silvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill Silvert) (01/14/90)
In article <47fe0144.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) writes: >About a month ago I found a new version of ZMODEM named ZMDM163 >that attempts to fix the infamous Zmodem upload to Forem ST >boards. Anyway, it does allow full speed uploads with the US Robotics >HST 14400 modem (I have seen 1600 cps files uploads to a Forem ST >board). But, the authors of this latest version did not leave their >name of a way to connect them. Neither did they release the source >code to their version 1.63. All I know is that they are called >"The ST Enthusiats" (sp??). I have version 1.67 of ZMDM, dated Sept. 1989. The ST Enthusiasts are at Case WRU and I got my copy from Bammi there -- he just sent me a change of address notice which is sitting on my work machine, but I can look it up later. It's a super program -- whether it solves the bugs that Covert goes on to list I don't know. There were some bugs in 1.65 and 1.66 that Bammi fixed very promptly. I think that he is out of town for a while. Let's see if he answers this posting, as the authors should be the ones to distribute software, and my version has some special patches in it. -- Bill Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division. Bedford Institute of Oceanography, Dartmouth, NS, Canada B2Y 4A2 UUCP: ...!{uunet,watmath}!dalcs!biomel!bill Internet: bill%biomel@cs.dal.CA BITNET: bill%biomel%dalcs@dalac
bammi@dsrgsun.ces.CWRU.Edu (Jwahar R. Bammi) (01/14/90)
i am here! i tried to reply to r.covert via mail, but he had strange
address that my mailer did'nt like. i'll post a new (improved) version
of zmdm to comp.binaries/sources.atari.st soon, after i have
heard from r.covert about the problems (and hopefully fix them).
--
bang: {any internet host}!dsrgsun.ces.CWRU.edu!bammi jwahar r. bammi
domain: bammi@dsrgsun.ces.CWRU.edu
GEnie: J.Bammicovertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) (01/16/90)
In article <1990Jan13.212911.11657@cs.dal.ca>, silvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill Silvert) writes: > In article <47fe0144.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) writes: > > I have version 1.67 of ZMDM, dated Sept. 1989. The ST Enthusiasts are > at Case WRU and I got my copy from Bammi there -- he just sent me > a change of address notice which is sitting on my work machine, but I > can look it up later. It's a super program -- whether it solves the > bugs that Covert goes on to list I don't know. There were some bugs in > 1.65 and 1.66 that Bammi fixed very promptly. > > I think that he is out of town for a while. Let's see if he answers > this posting, as the authors should be the ones to distribute software, > and my version has some special patches in it. > > -- > Bill Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division. Bill, could you PLEASE have one of the ST Enthusiasts post the source code to the latest version of Zmodem?? I have a lot of friends who would like a version of Zmodem which uploads at full speed. And I would like to add other file extenders to the list that are recognized as binary files. . . . . . . for postnews . . . . -- Richard E. Covert, Lead Engineer of Software Tools Group AG Communications Systems, Phoenix AZ (602) - 581-4652 TCP/IP: covertr@gtephx UUCP: {ncar!noao!asuvax | uunet!zardoz!hrc | att}!gtephx!covertr
covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) (01/16/90)
In article <BAMMI.90Jan14032424@dsrgsun.ces.CWRU.Edu>, bammi@dsrgsun.ces.CWRU.Edu (Jwahar R. Bammi) writes: > i am here! i tried to reply to r.covert via mail, but he had strange > address that my mailer did'nt like. i'll post a new (improved) version > of zmdm to comp.binaries/sources.atari.st soon, after i have > heard from r.covert about the problems (and hopefully fix them). > -- > bang: {any internet host}!dsrgsun.ces.CWRU.edu!bammi jwahar r. bammi > domain: bammi@dsrgsun.ces.CWRU.edu > GEnie: J.Bammi Jwahar, I know what you mean about the email address. I can't find your node on our list either. So I can't send email to you. Rats!! I would love to get a copy of your latest version of Zmodem so that I can try to find out why it is soo slow to upload compared to ST TERM. It may be a problem with FOREM ST more then your protocol. And I would like to add several file extenders to your list of file extenders which are recognized as binary files. I might want to even make it self-configuarable so that the user can change the list. But the main thing is the slowness of the file uploads to Forem ST boards. It is strange because Zmodem xfers at full speed for downloads FROM Forem ST boards. I really like Zmodem, I use it almost exclusively!! P.S. I can't find "dsrgsun" on any of my UUCP mailpaths. But I do have a GEnie account. It is R.COVERT1 so you can contact me there. Thanks for your response and your great work on this fine program. -- Richard E. Covert, Lead Engineer of Software Tools Group AG Communications Systems, Phoenix AZ (602) - 581-4652 TCP/IP: covertr@gtephx UUCP: {ncar!noao!asuvax | uunet!zardoz!hrc | att}!gtephx!covertr
hyc@math.lsa.umich.edu (Howard Chu) (01/17/90)
In article <480d5170.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) writes: >Jwahar, I know what you mean about the email address. I can't find your >node on our list either. So I can't send email to you. Rats!! > >I would love to get a copy of your latest version of Zmodem so that I can >try to find out why it is soo slow to upload compared to ST TERM. It may be >a problem with FOREM ST more then your protocol. And I would like to add several That's funny, I've sent & received mail to/from both of you.. }-) I was wondering about that slow upload as well; I thought it was just me. I added some patches to my copy of the sources (v1.62) for a number of things, including RTS/CTS flow control (to use with my Courier HST) and to use with Overscan. I also patched the Unix end to use with the HSTs. (Since you want to do binary file transfers, you don't want to have Ctrl-S and Ctrl-Q being anything special in the data stream. Since Unix only offers Xon/Xoff flow control in the tty driver, you can run into problems talking to an HST or any other high speed modem that does data compression. If you *could* use hardware [RTS/CTS] flow control on the Unix box, you'd be all set. This also is only a problem when the Box talks to the modem at 19.2K,, and the modem can only shovel bits out at 9.6K + compression. My solution [!??] was to add an appropriate delay between packets that would make the total data transmission rate from the Box to the HST correspond to about 11K, which is what the HST's top speed is rated at. It sounds silly, and is only about a 20% speed impreovement, but what the heck...) At any rate, digging thru the sources in an attempt to find the reason for the stop-and-wait upload behavior instead of the let-er-rip behavior of downloads hasn't yielded any insights yet. Mebbe I'm not looking at it right. Oh well... -- -=- PrayerMail: Send 100Mbits to holyghost@father.son[127.0.0.1] and You Too can have a Personal Electronic Relationship with God!
ncastellano@eagle.wesleyan.edu (02/01/90)
In article <892@ztivax.UUCP>, mjk@ztivax.UUCP (Michael John Kaelbling) writes: > Hi, > > does anybody know about terminal programs for the Atari ST handling Kermit > protocols? A program that does both terminal emulations, and the normal > Kermit functions like send and receive would be even more appreciated. > Right now I'm working with a very primitive Kermit for the ST. It's not > [...] Check out Uniterm in the comp.binaries.atari.st archives on terminator.cc.umich.edu ... Kermit support, full vt52, vt100, vt200, tek4010 emulation...great program. Nick -- _=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_ Mathematics is the subject in which we never know what we are talking about, nor whether what we are saying is true. -Bertrand Russell _-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_ Nicholas Steven Castellano | Box 4127 Wesleyan Station | Disclaimer: I am ncastellano@eagle.wesleyan.edu | Middletown CT 06457 | irresponsible. _=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_=_-_
boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) (02/01/90)
In article <892@ztivax.UUCP>, mjk@ztivax.UUCP (Michael John Kaelbling) writes: >Hi, > >does anybody know about terminal programs for the Atari ST handling Kermit >protocols? A program that does both terminal emulations, and the normal >Kermit functions like send and receive would be even more appreciated. Good ol Uniterm 2.0e will do this and more. A very robust and powerful program. Also, for about $15, one can buy Flash. It does NOT include Kermit protocol, but there is a desktop accessory that gives it that capability (which is either shareware or pd, I am not sure). I use flash myself (without Kermit) because it is much easier to understand for a novice (which I recently was). Also, it looks better on a color monitor (IMHO). With a mono, Uniterm is stunning, allowing super teeny tiny text as an option (really nice with big listings). Uniterm is free, and probably the most capable and error free terminal program for the ST. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Mickey Boyd | "Nobody can be exactly like me. | Even I have trouble doing it." FSU Comp Sci | - Tallulah Bankhead ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------------