rohwerwd@csusac.csus.edu (W. David Rohwer) (01/07/90)
The following is from "The Business Journal", p. 28, for the Week of January 8, 1990. "Atari Corp. of Sunnyvale suffered a third-quarter net loss of $5.4 million, or 9 cents per share, on net sales of $81.44 million. During the third quarter of the year before, the company earned $900,000, or 2 cents per share, on on net sales of $98.8 million. "For the nine-month period ended Sept 30, Atari had a net loss of $1.78 million, or 3 cents per share, on net sales of $252.96 million. It earned $12.14 million, or 21 cents per share, on net sales of $299.64 million during the comparable period for the previous year." Apparently, Atari is slowly fading into oblivion. :) I don't read these newsgroups, so if you want to contact me, then you will have to email messages to me. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // W. David Rohwer // UUCP : {ucdavis|lll-crg}!csusac!rohwerwd | | \X/ Go A's! \X/ Internet: rohwerwd@csusac.csus.edu | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
hedger@inmet.inmet.com (01/08/90)
Are they serious ???? They sold 98 million dollars worth of stuff and only made a 900,000 dollar profit ???? Sounds fishy to me. ===================================================================== | | | Keith Hedger : {...!}uunet!inmet!hedger hedger@inmet.inmet.com | | 'It is a sad, but beautiful world..........' | =====================================================================
waynekn@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM (Wayne Knapp) (01/11/90)
In article <30200039@inmet>, hedger@inmet.inmet.com writes:
- Are they serious ????
- They sold 98 million dollars worth of stuff and only made
- a 900,000 dollar profit ????
-
- Sounds fishy to me.
That's nothing! My company has even manage to sell 1.4 BILLION
and LOSE 16 million!!! Atari looks good from where I'm sitting.
(The above happen in the year that ended June of 1988)
Wayne Knappbradm@pro-grouch.cts.com (Brad Martin) (01/11/90)
In-Reply-To: message from hedger@inmet.inmet.com
>Sounds fishy to me.
Low margens on their products. :-)
.>Brad Martin<.
Atari Jihad
"The above opinions are mine and mine alone... I think."ejohanss@wang.UUCP (Eric Johansson) (01/12/90)
waynekn@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM (Wayne Knapp) writes: >In article <30200039@inmet>, hedger@inmet.inmet.com writes: >- Are they serious ???? >- They sold 98 million dollars worth of stuff and only made >- a 900,000 dollar profit ???? >- >- Sounds fishy to me. >That's nothing! My company has even manage to sell 1.4 BILLION >and LOSE 16 million!!! Atari looks good from where I'm sitting. >(The above happen in the year that ended June of 1988) > Wayne Knapp What are you guys complaining about. wang makes you look like pikers! we lost 0.5 billion on 3 billion of sales...( hmmm. maybe that's why they RIFed about 10,000 folks world wide) --- eric ( from whats left of ) Wang Labs ejohanss@wang.com
swklassen@tiger.waterloo.edu (Steven W. Klassen) (02/01/90)
In article <485d8c5b.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) writes: > >well, once again Atari Corp has shown how much it cares about the >USA market by releasing its new products overseas first. I really wonder >just how committed Atari corp is to the USa market anyway?? > >So, I am happy that the STe isn't Vaporware but it just joins the group of >other Atari products that have never been sold here in the USA. Like th >entire line of PC clones, the TT, and now the STe. Geez, when will Atari ever learn >that the USA is not some hick third world country? The PC clones never made it to the USA? I'm almost certain that I've seen them in a store here in Kitchener, Ontario, Canada. Steven W. Klassen +-----------------------------+ Computer Science Major | Support the poor...buy fur! | University of Waterloo +-----------------------------+
dnewton@carroll1.cc.edu (Dave Newton the Late) (02/02/90)
In article <20396@watdragon.waterloo.edu> swklassen@tiger.waterloo.edu (Steven W. Klassen) writes:
:The PC clones never made it to the USA? I'm almost certain that I've seen
:them in a store here in Kitchener, Ontario, Canada.
That's not the USA.
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(414) 524-6809 (home) | 100 NE Ave, Waukesha WI 53186swklassen@tiger.waterloo.edu (Steven W. Klassen) (02/03/90)
In article <1153@carroll1.cc.edu> dnewton@carroll1.cc.edu (Dave Newton the Late) writes: >In article <20396@watdragon.waterloo.edu> swklassen@tiger.waterloo.edu (Steven W. Klassen) writes: >:The PC clones never made it to the USA? I'm almost certain that I've seen >:them in a store here in Kitchener, Ontario, Canada. > > That's not the USA. > True...however, it seems strange that they would be available here in Canada but not just a few miles to the south (USA) - especially since they should be the same machine (same power supply, same video, etc.). Steven W. Klassen +-----------------------------+ Computer Science Major | Support the poor...buy fur! | University of Waterloo +-----------------------------+
valentin@cbmvax.commodore.com (Valentin Pepelea) (02/03/90)
In article <20464@watdragon.waterloo.edu> swklassen@tiger.waterloo.edu (Steven W. Klassen) writes: > >True...however, it seems strange that they would be available here in >Canada but not just a few miles to the south (USA) - especially since >they should be the same machine (same power supply, same video, etc.). The difference is FCC testing vs CSA testing. Although the EMI standards set by these regulatory bodies are similar, they are not identical. Valentin -- The Goddess of democracy? "The tyrants Name: Valentin Pepelea may distroy a statue, but they cannot Phone: (215) 431-9327 kill a god." UseNet: cbmvax!valentin@uunet.uu.net - Ancient Chinese Proverb Claimer: I not Commodore spokesman be
david.schreiber@canremote.uucp (DAVID SCHREIBER) (02/03/90)
A firend of mine bought an Atari PC clone over a year ago in Toronto. He says it's a superior clone. --- * Via ProDoor 3.2aR
ajy2208%ritcv@cs.rit.edu (02/04/90)
In article <20464@watdragon.waterloo.edu> swklassen@tiger.waterloo.edu (Steven W. Klassen) writes: >In article <1153@carroll1.cc.edu> dnewton@carroll1.cc.edu (Dave Newton the Late) writes: >>In article <20396@watdragon.waterloo.edu> swklassen@tiger.waterloo.edu (Steven W. Klassen) writes: >>:The PC clones never made it to the USA? I'm almost certain that I've seen >>:them in a store here in Kitchener, Ontario, Canada. >> >> That's not the USA. >> > >True...however, it seems strange that they would be available here in >Canada but not just a few miles to the south (USA) - especially since >they should be the same machine (same power supply, same video, etc.). > > Ahh, I wish that were the case. Sigh.. I live just south of Canada (Rochester, NY) and on a recent excursion to Toronto I was surprised to see all the Atari support available!!! I also got to play with some of Atari's new hardware, like the Stacy. >Computer Science Major | Support the poor...buy fur! | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ huh? Albert Yarusso, Rochester ajy2208@ritvax.bitnet,ajy2208@ultb.isc.rit.edu Institute of Tech. _________________________________________________________ Computer Science /___ / {rutgers, ames}!rochester!ritcv!ajy2208 ______________________/ / ajy2208@ritcv.cs.rit.edu GEnie: A.Yarusso
kawakami@earthquake.Berkeley.EDU (John Kawakami) (02/04/90)
In article <485d8c5b.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) writes: > >well, once again Atari Corp has shown how much it cares about the >USA market by releasing its new products overseas first. I really wonder >just how committed Atari corp is to the USa market anyway?? 1. I didn't know there was a sea between the USA and Canada. 2. I think Atari ships to other countries first because Atari diddles too long figuring out how to market the machines here. The Atari has a serious identity crisis. 2a. I don't think shipping to other countries is such a bad thing, especially if the dollar is weak elswhere. > >So, I am happy that the STe isn't Vaporware but it just joins the group of >other Atari products that have never been sold here in the USA. Like th >entire line of PC clones, the TT, and now the STe. Geez, when will Atari >ever learn that the USA is not some hick third world country? > > I was always under the impression that most ST/Megas are sold in 1st world countries like W Germany, Great Britan, Canada, and France. John Kawakami kawakami@earthquake.berkeley.edu ucbvax!earthquake.berkeley.edu!kawakami take-a-right-up-the-hill-then-a-left-on-leroy
vanleeuw@udcps3.cps.udayton.edu (James Van Leeuwen) (02/06/90)
In article <34112@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> kawakami@earthquake.Berkeley.EDU (John Kawakami) writes: >In article <485d8c5b.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) writes: >> >>well, once again Atari Corp has shown how much it cares about the >>USA market by releasing its new products overseas first. I really wonder >>just how committed Atari corp is to the USa market anyway?? > >1. I didn't know there was a sea between the USA and Canada. >2. I think Atari ships to other countries first because Atari diddles > too long figuring out how to market the machines here. The Atari > has a serious identity crisis. >2a. I don't think shipping to other countries is such a bad thing, especially > if the dollar is weak elswhere. Well, here's my two cents worth. First of all, I have worked for one of the nation's largest ST dealers for about 9 months now, so I have a little perspective on the issue. One of the major reasons that equipment seems to get overseas faster than it arrives here is a little organization called the FCC. Not only is the process for approval slow, it gives any company an excuse for not releasing products on time. I agree entirely that shipping overseas is a good idea, but I think that Atari has taken it a little too far. In their attempts to expand their overseas market, Atari has forgotten about the US market completely. Not only is Atari at fault in this category, many of the third party software developers are guilty as well. Ever seen an American version of Turbo C/Pascal from Borland? I also don't feel that delays in the introduction of products to the US market are due to marketing. Atari does little (read almost nothing) in marketing in the US. It relies heavily on the major dealers to sell the product for them. This alone causes many problems, particularly when the dealers know as little about the products as the consumers. The dealers would probably be willing to pass on information to consumers if it were only available. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Van Leeuwen vanleeuw@udcps3.cps.udayton.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs) (02/07/90)
In article <1581@cs.rit.edu> ajy2208%ritcv@cs.rit.edu (Albert Yarusso) writes: > >Ahh, I wish that were the case. Sigh.. I live just south of >Canada (Rochester, NY) and on a recent excursion to Toronto I >was surprised to see all the Atari support available!!! I also >got to play with some of Atari's new hardware, like the Stacy. > >>Computer Science Major | Support the poor...buy fur! | > Albert Yarusso, Rochester ajy2208@ritvax.bitnet,ajy2208@ultb.isc.rit.edu This is the first report I've seen of a STacy being offered for retail sale. Would you please tell more? What model (RAM size, was there a hard disk, power supply, that kind of thing)? Was any software bundled with it? Steve J.