[comp.sys.atari.st] Questions about TeX

hagelin@lne.kth.se (02/06/90)

	Questions about TeX for the ST.
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I have seen that TeX is sometimes mentioned in this newsgroup. Does TeX really
exist for the Atari ST ?  How much memory does it use, do I have to have a
laserprinter, is it fully compatible with TeX on BIG computers, can I transfer
a DVI-file from the Atari to another computer and still wind up with a
beautifully TeX:ed text ?  Where can I find TeX and is it public domain ?

I would appriciate an answer to these quesTeXions and anything else that is
worth knowing about this subject...

		Thanks in advance
					Martin

mikew@wheeler.wrcr.unr.edu (Mike Whitbeck) (02/09/90)

In article <38.25cdb349@lne.kth.se> hagelin@lne.kth.se writes:
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|| 	Questions about TeX for the ST.
|| 	-------------------------------
|| 
|| I have seen that TeX is sometimes mentioned in this newsgroup. Does TeX really
|| exist for the Atari ST ?  How much memory does it use, do I have to have a

YES! several implementations are available I use Ctex2.9

|| laserprinter, is it fully compatible with TeX on BIG computers, can I transfer

You can use EPSON or deskjet or ...

|| a DVI-file from the Atari to another computer and still wind up with a
|| beautifully TeX:ed text ?  Where can I find TeX and is it public domain ?

Absolutely! Just make sure that you have the same (and complete)
font files. However the formatting is so fast it is often more
convienent to just reformat the *.tex files on the bigger
machine (this is what I usually do--- gets past the problem of
missing fonts).

TeX is sort-of-PD (copyrigted but free) complete packages can be
ftp'd from atari archives like terminator and cwru (best
package). You can also buy ($150?) a complete package from the
authors of a GERMAN ST port. Current Notes carries a
distribution for a few bucks ($6?) as well.

|| 
|| I would appriciate an answer to these quesTeXions and anything else that is
|| worth knowing about this subject...
|| 
|| 		Thanks in advance
|| 					Martin

IMHO TeX + postscript beats almost all the of the so-called
DTP's available commercially... and it's (almost)FREE!

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bammi@dsrgsun.ces.CWRU.Edu (Jwahar R. Bammi) (02/11/90)

In article <3554@tahoe.unr.edu> mikew@wheeler.wrcr.unr.edu (Mike Whitbeck) writes:
  .......
> IMHO TeX + postscript beats almost all the of the so-called
> DTP's available commercially... and it's (almost)FREE!

i agree completely. my biggest complaint with all the wysiwyg  type programs
is "what you see is ALL you get" (ie. no extensibility, very limited
customization possibilities, and too much clickity-clacking with the
mouse to do anything useful.).

incidently, a slightly improved version of CTeX is now available on
dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu in pub/StTeX. by popular request i have put 1M,
2M, and 4M binaries there (please dont mix their .fmt files. the 4M
binary will consume all of your 4Megs, so you may consider the 2M
binary instead). for a brief period there was a buggy version there.
if you have one of these, (\today will give you a crazy date. (thanks ed P))
please grab a  fresh binary (and delete time.c and time.h from the
CTeX source directory). the new binaries will undump more reliably.
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bmaraldo@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Commander Brett Maraldo) (02/12/90)

In article <BAMMI.90Feb10165334@dsrgsun.ces.CWRU.Edu> bammi@dsrgsun.ces.CWRU.Edu (Jwahar R. Bammi) writes:
>In article <3554@tahoe.unr.edu> mikew@wheeler.wrcr.unr.edu (Mike Whitbeck) writes:
>  .......
>> IMHO TeX + postscript beats almost all the of the so-called
>> DTP's available commercially... and it's (almost)FREE!
>i agree completely. my biggest complaint with all the wysiwyg  type programs
>is "what you see is ALL you get" (ie. no extensibility, very limited
>customization possibilities, and too much clickity-clacking with the
>mouse to do anything useful.).

	I love TeX, for doing text typesetting.  I think that TeX is
great for doing papers and what-not but for signs and newsletter type
publications a WYSIWYG is best.  I use TeX for doing my academic papers
and Calamus for doing newsletters and signs.  It is not trivial to
move blocks of text around in TeX, leaving appropriate room for graphics
and what-not.  A WYSISYG allows you to visualize the placement of
layout objects and include (visually!) graphics in your documents.
Althought TeX can do this it is a non-triavial task that is handled better
with a WYSIWYG, such as Calamus.  Mind you, it takes TeX about 30 sec to
print a 300dpi page and Calamus about 3 min!  TeX has its uses; it does
*text typesetting in solid blocks* much better than a WYSIWYG and a DTP
is suited better to layout type tasks.  Comparing a DTP to TeX is really
like comparing apples and oranges - each is designed for different 
purposed (TeX for typesetting, DTPs for layout).  As a side note, I
prefer the Computer Mondern fonts to, say, Times Roman.  Many people
argue with me about this...


Brett L Maraldo


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