focke@gmdzi.UUCP (Stefan Focke) (02/12/90)
Hello,
can anyone tell what this accessory is good for?
Thanks
Stefan
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5205 St. Augustin 1 BGB100@psuvm.psu.edu (Bruce Blanar) (02/15/90)
"Neodesk trashcan accessory"? I've never heard of it and I use Neodesk all the time. Is this something in a newer version? __ __ __ Bruce Blanar |"Everybody need a mood lifter, |__) | _ |__) Penn State University | Everybody need reverse polarity." |__).|__|.|__). BGB100@PSUVM.bitnet | -Rush voice: (814)862-8036 |
matthews@umd5.umd.edu (Mike Matthews) (02/15/90)
In article <2015@gmdzi.UUCP> focke@gmdzi.UUCP (Stefan Focke) writes: >Hello, > >can anyone tell what this accessory is good for? > >Thanks > > Stefan > It gives you a recoverable trashcan with Neodesk 2.05 and later. When you delete files, you can recover them later. You install a new trashcan icon (included in the package) by dragging the trashcan.acc to the desktop (they recommend removing the old trashcan icon so you don't get confused), and whenever you delete a file, it puts it into a sort of limbo; a trashcan.dat (or some such) hidden file is written to that disk, and you can recover 'at any time' the file(s) in question. Works very similar to the Mac trashcan; note that when you "delete" the file it'll still take disk space. Also, if you run ICD's Cleanup or Tuneup or (I imagine) Hard Disk Sentry on a disk that has "deleted" files, it'll muff things up. Mike
tmwhitehead@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (02/16/90)
In article <90045.192605BGB100@psuvm.psu.edu>, BGB100@psuvm.psu.edu (Bruce Blanar) writes: > "Neodesk trashcan accessory"? I've never heard of it and I use Neodesk > all the time. Is this something in a newer version? > > __ __ __ Bruce Blanar |"Everybody need a mood lifter, > |__) | _ |__) Penn State University | Everybody need reverse polarity." > |__).|__|.|__). BGB100@PSUVM.bitnet | -Rush > voice: (814)862-8036 | Neotrash is a recoverable trashcan accessory. It replaces the trashcan on Neodesk 2.05 or higher versions only. It was distributed by Gribnif as "freeware" as a 'gift' to it's users. At first I thought, "Great! now it will be just like the black hole on the NeXT!" But upon reading the documentation, I found out that it IS like the black hole on the NeXT. What that means is that you have to go through two steps to delete something. When you drag an item to the trashcan, it removes the entry from the directory, and stores it in a hidden file on the root of the disk that the file was deleted from. It keeps the bytes on the disk that are used by the file marked as used so they don't get overwritten. Then if you want to recover a file you just double click on the trashcan and select it and click on recover. There are three drawbacks to this: 1) Your trashcan fills up real quick, and the new trashcan isn't a real replacement for the old trashcan. (If you drag an icon from the desktop to the trashcan, it will try to actually delete that item. Bit it IS recoverable). 2) Since the clusters are marked as used, but are not assigned to a file, programs that check the structure of the disks will report errors, and optimizers will TRASH the disk. 3) The files still take up valuable space on your hard drive. Still, it IS freeware, and some of you may be interested in using it, so I will be posting it tonight to comp.binaries.atari.st. (If I get time...) I just wonder why they didn't make it easier and just hide the files that have been deleted.... ____ / _ _/ _/ Todd Whitehead / /_/ /_/ /_/ Miami University Oxford, Ohio If it looks like I said it, I probably did... _____________________________________________________________________________ I'm graduating in May as a Systems Analysis Major! Anybody wanna hire me? -----------------------------------------------------------------------------