[comp.sys.atari.st] NOTATOR

bissiri@blake.acs.washington.edu (Moja Fritzah) (07/26/89)

Has anybody successfully run NOTATOR on a 19 inch?  
I am waiting for the update to 2.1 anyday now.. will
consider the Moniterm monitor if the software supoorts it.

Thanks.

-kevin
bissiri@blake.acs.washington.edu

ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu (Enartloc Nhoj) (09/03/89)

Has anybody seen NOTATOR working on a 19" monitor?

-kevin
ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu

ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu (Enartloc Nhoj) (11/14/89)

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>From: swan@jolnet.ORPK.IL.US (Joel Swan)
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Subject: Re: Music notation software?
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Date: 13 Nov 89 07:12:33 GMT
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Posted: Sun Nov 12 23:12:33 1989

In article <4414@blake.acs.washington.edu> ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu (Enartloc Nhoj) writes:
:In article <1766@thumper.bellcore.com> lamb@thumper.bellcore.com (John W. Lamb) writes:
:>
:>If you are willing to buy both DMCS and The Copyist, you can enter
:>the score in DMCS, import it into The Copyist, tweak as needed and
:>
:>No matter how you do it, producing good looking sheet music is a
:>lot of work.  After using both programs separately and together
:>many times, it still takes me 1 or 2 hours per page to get
:>something I'm happy with.
:
:I have just begun reading the AMiga newsgroup.
:I have an ATARI 1040ST .. am considering the Amiga 3000 or the Atari TTx
:
:Music:  I use NOTATOR for the Atari.  While The Copyist is also
:available for the ATARI, i can't see spending 1-2 hours per page.
:I did close to 300 pages one week for the Pacific Northwest ballet.
:Notation and midi-event data are fully integrated.  No file conversion
:or program switching is necessary.  
:
:I am reading this newsgroup to find out if anything like NOTATOR
:even exists for the AMiga... as i am growing very interested in the
:open architecture of the Amiga line and may in fact leave the ATARI world.

Unfortunately there is nothing close to the power of Notator for the Amiga.
It really is a pitty because the Amiga could probably blow the Atari
version from the water.  Still, no one has really maxed the Amiga out in terms
of midi software or notation software.  Notator is a remarkable feet of
software engineering on an average to above average piece of hardware.
I do wish the Amiga software developers would not rely so heavily on 
the Amiga's hardware magic and instead (in addition to) push their software 
creativity to the limits, as was done with Notator.  I would give anything 
to see C-Lab do Notator on the Amiga.  Sigh, What a dream.

(To those Amiga users who have never seen Notator by C-LAB, I HIGHLY recommend
you run down to the nearest Music dealer who knows the Atari and Notator and
watch it run.  You will be Amazed.  I wish some Amiga music-software developers
would look at it and get inspired!)
:-kevin 
:ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu

Joel Swan

I offer this posting for those who are wondering which machine
is better for music.  Obviously the Atari wins in this category.
The existence of NOTATOR is the primary reason I wait for the TT.
If NOTATOR shows up on another box... hmm?

-kevin
ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu

ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu (Enartloc Nhoj) (12/10/89)

NOTATOR currently does NOT work with 
either the moniterm nor with Jim ALlen's 
accelerator.  

The Moniterm support will take about two weeks of 
software work (according to the US national rep)..

TO work with the Turbo16 accelerator or with the TT,
a change in the timing of the read of the dongle has
to be implemented... another software change.

Regarding the accelerator:  I am told that there
is a German board that does work with NOTATOR.. however,
the cache has to be disabled.. and as a result, there are
no real noticeable improvements in scrolling ..

However, as the update to NOTATOR will include a full page
preview among other things.. it would be nice to have
MONITERM support.  As it is now, one needs to do a lot
of verticle scrolling when viewing and editing more than
6 tracks.  This gets very time consuming.

POINT:  THe US rep Mikhail Graham tells me that C-LAB won't
support the MONITERM unless they get a few hundred calls
requesting it.  SO far there has been few.  So, if any of you
NOTATOR users are simply waiting for MONITERM support.. it won't
be there unless we call in our request. 

Here's the name and number of the C-LAB rep.  A very nice guy
i might add:

	
              Mikhail Graham
              1-916-265-6484

He's always receptive to ideas and encourages users to make
suggestions for improving the already awesome NOTATOR.

-kevin
ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu

gl8f@bessel.acc.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) (12/10/89)

In article <4841@blake.acs.washington.edu> ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu (Enartloc Nhoj) writes:

! TO work with the Turbo16 accelerator or with the TT,
! a change in the timing of the read of the dongle has
! to be implemented... another software change.

ANOTHER victory for copy-protection. Long live copy-protection.

------
Greg Lindahl

ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu (Enartloc Nhoj) (02/05/90)

How many people could find ANY written material 
either in the prerelease notes or in the manual
that says the new SOFTLINK runs on TOS 1.2 or higher?
Neither Digidesign nor Mikhail, C-lab's rep, ever
once suggested that my $30 plus phone calls etc 
would amount to zip for the update.

Running SOFTLINK on TOS 1.0 yields:

ABORT  TOS Unknown!  Must be older than 1.2!

etc 
etc
etc


Maybe i will keep my ST in GCR mac mode 100% of the time
instead of 90% from now on.


-kevin
ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu

ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu (Enartloc Nhoj) (02/18/90)

To owners and potential buyers of NOTATOR for the ST:

As a user of NOTATOR myself.. i would like to see
some improvements in a few areas.  I am sure others
out there have their personal grievances and wish lists.

I would like to collect your suggestions and create a 
compilation file that i will present to the reps 
at C-LAB.  I AM NOT AFFILIATED WITH C_LAB!  Just a user
who knows that changes won't be made unless a good portion
of the user base insists on them.  Please email me your
suggestions... after a time (not sure when), i will
present the info to C-LAB with the hope that we can
improve an already great package.  

Here are a few of mine:

1) Make it work with Jim ALlen's Turbo16 accelerator board
2) Support for MONITERM and large screen display.
3) Print spooling     
4) Postscript support (for importing files into PS document processors)
                      (as well as the obvious)
5) Ability to print when a RAM Disk is installed (perhaps certain ones
   already allow it.. i would like to know)
6) Greater Laser Printer support.
7) When entering a note with the mouse, we need a "register"
    that indicates the exact pitch as the mouse moves across
    the staff  a la music studio.


email me at    ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu

If for some reason you can't find my node, post it to the
net, and i will grab it there.. but, do your best not to
waste bandwith on this.  Thanks!

-kevin