whitten@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (02/17/90)
After reading thru the MINIX newsgroup, my intrest about ST MINIX has really grown... I would love to hear from anyone out there that has purchased the package, as well as anyone else who has two cents to put in. Specifically, does it support multitasking, multiple users, that kind of thing? Can you still run TOS programs from inside it? Would you consider it useful to people who aren't real unix gurus? Also, along that same lines, what about Dave's Multitasking C-Shell? Can it do any of the aforementioned neato-keen stuff? Also, further down that same set of lines, I'd love to get some feedback from anyone who has a form of UUCP running on their ST, and USENET ect... Thanks for any light you can shed on this, Chris /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Michael C. Whittenburg Operator At The University of Kansas Academic Computing Center WHITTEN@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU MWHITTENBURG@VOLTA.ECE.UKANS.EDU WHITTEN@UKANVAX.bitnet MWHITTENBURG%ECE@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU OP55@UKANVM.bitnet Standard Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are mine... blah blah \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
hcj@lzsc.ATT.COM (HC Johnson) (02/19/90)
In article <22274.25dc6917@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, whitten@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: > > After reading thru the MINIX newsgroup, my intrest about ST MINIX has > really grown... I would love to hear from anyone out there that has > purchased the package, as well as anyone else who has two cents to > put in. Specifically, does it support multitasking, multiple users, > that kind of thing? Can you still run TOS programs from inside it? > Would you consider it useful to people who aren't real unix gurus? > Re MINIX: Multitasking: yes Multiusers:yes, if you add the rs232 driver, PD, on network. Run TOS form MINIX: no; but you can access TOS files read/write. Useful: YOu don't have to be a guru to use it. It helps to know UNIX to appreciate what you can do with it. I find it most useful as a maintenance tool for TOS files systems. Howard C. Johnson ATT Bell Labs =====NEW address==== att!lzsc!hcj hcj@lzsc.att.com
hyc@math.lsa.umich.edu (Howard Chu) (02/19/90)
In article <22274.25dc6917@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> whitten@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: >After reading thru the MINIX newsgroup, my intrest about ST MINIX has >really grown... I would love to hear from anyone out there that has >purchased the package, as well as anyone else who has two cents to >put in. Specifically, does it support multitasking, multiple users, >that kind of thing? Can you still run TOS programs from inside it? >Would you consider it useful to people who aren't real unix gurus? I haven't seen it done, but someone posted here a while back about getting TOS executable files to execute under Minix. It's probably a doable thing, but not advertised as a standard feature of Minix. Heck, you could kludge up a library that converted Beckemeyer's RTX system calls to Minix calls, then you'd *really* have some fun. Oh, other question - yeah, Minix is multi-user and multi-tasking. Version 7 Unix. > >Also, along that same lines, what about Dave's Multitasking C-Shell? >Can it do any of the aforementioned neato-keen stuff? > Dave's stuff can do multi-tasking for sure; I've played with Micro-RTX a little bit now. I'm not really interested in trying to make my ST into a multi-user box, and I don't have the MT C-Shell, so can't answer whether it's multi-user or not. Don't see why not, tho. -- -- Howard Chu @ University of Michigan
mboen@nixpbe.UUCP (Martin Boening) (02/19/90)
whitten@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: >After reading thru the MINIX newsgroup, my intrest about ST MINIX has >really grown... I would love to hear from anyone out there that has >purchased the package, as well as anyone else who has two cents to >put in. Specifically, does it support multitasking, multiple users, >that kind of thing? Can you still run TOS programs from inside it? >Would you consider it useful to people who aren't real unix gurus? > MINIX is a 'clone' of UNIX (TM), V7. It can certainly do multitasking. On PC engines it also does multiuser processing. The ability is also there in MINIX ST but there may be a problem regarding the tty ports (i.e. serial ports). I haven't tried it yet, though. The newest version, namely 1.5.0, contains rs232 support and should therefore support multi users (2). This cannot be bought it must be built from the Version 1.1 sold by PH using the patches for PC and ST that were posted to the net. You CANNOT run TOS programs. You can try to add such a feature analogous to the ability of running DOS programs in SCO Unix but it would be quite a project. You should have UNIX knowledge. If you intend to do upgrading you should even be competent in UNIX and system programming. If you intend to do program development... I would NOT consider it useful as a USERS OS. It's more a thing for people who want to know their way around in operating systems and like to have one os they can hack themselves (I haven't seen a spreadsheet for MINIX, for instance). Hope this helps you. Martin -- Email: in the USA -> ...!uunet!philabs!linus!nixbur!mboening.pad outside USA -> {...!mcvax}!unido!nixpbe!mboening.pad Paper Mail: Martin Boening, Nixdorf Computer AG, DS-CC22, Pontanusstr. 55, 4790 Paderborn, W.-Germany