[comp.sys.atari.st] Moniterm & STe, STe & SIMMs, ATW news

grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Graham Thomas) (02/17/90)

From article <2042@atari.UUCP>, by apratt@atari.UUCP (Allan Pratt):
> No, the STe can not drive a Moniterm or similar monitor directly. The
> video signal for that kind of monitor is totally different from the
> normal ST/STe video, and requires extra hardware.  There is an add-in
> board available for the Mega which has this hardware.  Since the STe is
> in a 1040 case, without the room or stakes for this kind of  board,
> it's not available for STe.  We do have plans for a future STe with
> enough expansion capability to make this possible, but the details 
> are not public yet (and I don't know them).
> 

..but you may just have exposed yourself to a whole lot of 'if you're
going to do it, I want it NOW!!' messages.  Sounds like a sensible thing
to do, though.  It'll require a new case for the STe, won't it?  I
wonder what implies for the Mega range?
> 
>>Can someone from Atari also post the specs on the SIMMs the STE and STACY
>>are supposed to use?
> 
> I don't know them.  The SIMMs are there mainly for the cost and space
> savings on the PC board, not so you can add memory to your machine.  
> 
> In some machines the memory is not even socketed: it's SIPs, not SIMMs.
> If the cost of SIPs is lower than SIMMs plus sockets at the time we
> buy, we use SIPs.
> 

Oh dear.  Anything to save a buck.  Just when we were thinking how nice
it is, having a machine which is certain to be easily upgradeable.  I
thought Atari might have learned its lesson from the time when it made
Mega 2's which couldn't be upgraded to 4 meg.  It really is a
short-sighted attitude.

(None of this implies any personal criticism, Allan.  I doubt whether
you're responsible for this.)

[Apropos of nothing, as I have a few more lines to insert to defeat the
'50% new stuff' rule, I see that the Atari Transputer Workstation is now
being openly advertised as 'available now' in the magazine
Parallelogram.  For 4995 pounds, you get a T800 processor, 4mb RAM,
graphics processor, 1mb video RAM, 1280x960 colour graphics, X-Windows,
Helios O/S, and either a C or a Fortran compiler.  Contact Perihelion on
+44 223 356555 for more details.  Oh, and 'Available soon: Ethernet Link
Adaptor'.

The same issue (Feb 90) has an article which hints at a financial
cock-up at Perihelion.  It looks like Atari UK are now going to make the
ATW themselves, with the assistance of 5 ex-Perihelion employees, while
Perihelion Hardware Ltd.  (new name, formerly just Perihelion Ltd.) will
distribute it, and make & distribute peripherals for it.  Atari expects
to expand its ATW staff to 14 by mid-year (whenever that is - calendar,
financial?)

I was interested to see the report on how the Kodak ATW-based image
manipulator is now on public view in Toronto.  I saw it at the UK
Personal Computer Show last September, and was very impressed.  What a
great tool for blackmailers it would make!  Get a photo of someone in a
compromising position, then stick on someone else's head!

There, that should be enough.  Sorry to ramble on.]

Graham


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roland@cochise.pcs.com (Roland Rambau) (02/26/90)

->From article <2042@atari.UUCP>, by apratt@atari.UUCP (Allan Pratt):
->> 
->> I don't know them.  The SIMMs are there mainly for the cost and space
->> savings on the PC board, not so you can add memory to your machine.  
->> 
->> In some machines the memory is not even socketed: it's SIPs, not SIMMs.
->> If the cost of SIPs is lower than SIMMs plus sockets at the time we
->> buy, we use SIPs.

Allan, you may not know this, but in Germany the STE is definitely
advertized as "_expandable via SIMMs to up to 4 MB_" ( I have this in print ).
  Atari will probably have to refund any STE which does not stand to this
promise ...


Roland Rambau

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