david@bdt.UUCP (David Beckemeyer) (03/10/90)
I have been asked to post the following for Michael Arthur. Please
don't reply to me about it. You can reply to MICHAEL_ARTHUR@bdt.UUCP
or post followups here for him to read.
- David Beckemeyer
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CPU Newswire/ST Report is a weekly online Magazine which deals withboth
Atari-related news and events, but also with current decisions and happeniNGS
of Atari Corp. itself. It is already very popular on GEnie
Compuserve, BIX, and Delphi, but ST Report is also considering distributing
CPU Newswire via Usenet. Since each issue is an ASCII text file typically
100K - 140K in size, what are the possible implications of distributing ST
Report via this avenue?
Also, since CPU Report (a column in ST Report) is about 12K - 25K in size, and
deals with the microcomputer industry, I believe that I asked you about the
feasibility of also distributing it via Usenet, and the Newsgroups which would
theoretically distribute it.
In order to further discuss the possibility of distributing ST Report or CPU
Report via Newsgroups on Usenet, could you reply to this message, detailing
your thoughts on the feasibility on this idea, and on how it could be
implemented?
Michael Arthur
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UUCP: {uunet,ucbvax}!unisoft!bdt!david |gl8f@astsun9.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) (03/11/90)
In article <1567@bdt.UUCP> david@bdt.UUCP (actually Michael Arthur) writes: >CPU Newswire/ST Report is a weekly online Magazine which deals withboth >Atari-related news and events, but also with current decisions and happeniNGS >of Atari Corp. itself. It is already very popular on GEnie >Compuserve, BIX, and Delphi, but ST Report is also considering distributing >CPU Newswire via Usenet. I've been distributing ST Report via email for quite a whle now. I feel that it would be a very bad idea to post these to the newsgroup because: 1) it's big. people in the past have complained about that aspect. 2) it contains utterly totally-commercial advertising for the editor's business. this IS a no-no at many sites which receive Usenet news messages over the Internet. I post a message about availability of ST Report here about every 2 months. I'm surprised you hadn't noticed this. >Also, since CPU Report (a column in ST Report) is about 12K - 25K in size, and >deals with the microcomputer industry, I believe that I asked you about the >feasibility of also distributing it via Usenet, and the Newsgroups which would >theoretically distribute it. I wouldn't distribute this to anything but a garbage can. It is an extremely poor quality "column". If you distributed it to the newsgroups that it theoretically belongs in, you'd be laughed off of Usenet. That's just my opinion. > Michael Arthur Greg Lindahl gl8f@virginia.edu Astrophysicists for Choice.
Xorg@cup.portal.com (Peter Ted Szymonik) (03/12/90)
I thought ST-Report was ULed to the Net every week already! If not I'd be more than happy to do so as a regular reader and contributor. Peter Szymonik
hyc@math.lsa.umich.edu (Howard Chu) (03/13/90)
100-140K of text per issue, huh? It'd be best to break something like that into a few smaller articles. Maybe even a good idea to put stuff like that in its own newsgroup. -- -- Howard Chu @ University of Michigan
ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu (L.J.Dickey) (03/14/90)
In article <11352@stag.math.lsa.umich.edu> hyc@math.lsa.umich.edu (Howard Chu) writes: >100-140K of text per issue, huh? It'd be best to break something like that >into a few smaller articles. Maybe even a good idea to put stuff like that >in its own newsgroup. I support the idea of a separate news group. This one is "comp.sys.atari.st". How about "comp.sys.atari.st.mags". Or "comp.mag.atari.st". -- Leroy J. Dickey, Faculty of Mathematics, University of Waterloo. ljdickey@water.UWaterloo.ca ljdickey@water.BITNET ljdickey@water.UUCP ..!uunet!watmath!water!ljdickey ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu
gl8f@astsun9.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) (03/14/90)
In article <3070@water.waterloo.edu> ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu (L.J.Dickey) writes: >In article <11352@stag.math.lsa.umich.edu> hyc@math.lsa.umich.edu (Howard Chu) writes: >>100-140K of text per issue, huh? It'd be best to break something like that >>into a few smaller articles. Maybe even a good idea to put stuff like that >>in its own newsgroup. > >I support the idea of a separate news group. >This one is "comp.sys.atari.st". How about "comp.sys.atari.st.mags". >Or "comp.mag.atari.st". I don't think this is appropriate for several reasons: 1) The mags, unedited, contain things which are inappropriate for the comp.* hierarchy. They also contain duplicate material. 2) The existing mailing lists ought to be a good judge of the actual readership -- and they aren't that big, around 250 readers each. The load on the Internet is much lower for this size list than a real comp.* newsgroup. (Despite the fact that only 100 relative votes are needed to form a group, actual readership for most groups with a few hundred votes is in the several thousands. I'm not so sure a new newsgroup would even pass.) Remember, I started these mailing lists last time the issue came up of distributing these mags via newsgroup. Although I have occasionally let the mags lag as far as 2 or 3 weeks behind real-time, I think I've provided a better solution than a newgroup, given the volume that we have. Greg Lindahl gl8f@virginia.edu Astrophysicists for Choice.
jlemon@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Jonathan Lemon) (03/15/90)
In article <3070@water.waterloo.edu> ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu (L.J.Dickey) writes: >In article <11352@stag.math.lsa.umich.edu> hyc@math.lsa.umich.edu (Howard Chu) writes: >>100-140K of text per issue, huh? It'd be best to break something like that >>into a few smaller articles. Maybe even a good idea to put stuff like that >>in its own newsgroup. > >I support the idea of a separate news group. >This one is "comp.sys.atari.st". How about "comp.sys.atari.st.mags". >Or "comp.mag.atari.st". Alternate titles: "comp.mag.atari.st.garbage" "comp.sys.atari.st.zero_bandwidth" "/dev/null" Sorry. I couldn't resist this one. (so what am I doing reading them?!) :-0 -- Jonathan ...ucbvax!cory!jlemon or jlemon@cory.Berkeley.EDU (.signature under attack by shoddy magazines.. please stand by...)
MICHAEL_ARTHUR@bdt.UUCP (03/18/90)
Why do you feel that CPU Report is an: extremely poor quality "column". If you distributed it to the newsgroups that it theoretically belongs in, you'd be laughed off of Usenet. That's just my opinion. (Greg Lindahl's words quoted above) And what are your suggestions to make CPU Report at least palatable to you, anything else? I would truly appreciate any comments, "constructive criticism", or suggestions that you may have for making CPU Report a better column, as compcomplaints usually have some basis...