[comp.sys.atari.st] GEMINI & GDOS = Garbage in Console?

cs325ec@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (04/13/90)

	I just popped in my TOS 1.4 and booted Gemini for the first time
	instead of MUPFEL/VENUS.  I tried G+PLUS 1.? and the G+FLAIR that
	came with my World Flair and in both instances, the console window
	works only with TypeWriter or System fonts, the others appear as
	garbage characters (Gemini.fnt etc.).  Anyone have any ideas?  I'll
	try AMCGDOS, but I can't believe that it would work where G+Plus 
	failed...

		Thanks in advance.
		
		-- Greg

icsu8053@nero.cs.montana.edu (Craig Pratt) (04/14/90)

In article <16000051@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> cs325ec@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>
>
>	I just popped in my TOS 1.4 and booted Gemini for the first time
>	instead of MUPFEL/VENUS.  I tried G+PLUS 1.? and the G+FLAIR that
>	came with my World Flair and in both instances, the console window
>	works only with TypeWriter or System fonts, the others appear as
>	garbage characters (Gemini.fnt etc.).  Anyone have any ideas?  I'll
>	try AMCGDOS, but I can't believe that it would work where G+Plus 
>	failed...
>
>		Thanks in advance.
>		
>		-- Greg


I've run across this with both versions of Goemini and it is one of the
reasons I'm discouraged from using it.  Gemini seems to be dependant upon AMC
GDOS to use the Gemini and TMail screen fonts correctly.  This wouldn't matter
so much except for the fact that if you use the Gemini desktop, you can't
use the G+Plus auto-install option with Gemini, to my knowledge.  This forces
you to create a single assign.sys file that works with everything.  This
is a real limitation because Opus is VERY picky about how the assign.sys file
is set up.  To Stefan Eissing or any other knowledgeable Gemini/Venus experts:
Is there any way to use G+Plus Install with Gemini?  Can you force Gemini to 
temporarily "let go" of GDOS before executing another GDOS program?  If not,
is there a way then to force Gemini not to use GDOS at all?!?  This is the
only reason I have to *not* use Gemini.  Are there any G+Plus experts that
know of a work-around?  Please, someone, ANYONE - what's the trick?

Craig

P.S. Yes, I have TOS 1.4

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cs325ec@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (04/14/90)

	If you get macfonts.arc from somewhere (I got it at the Netherlands
	FTP), you can use monaco 9pt and a few others (courier now works)
	from that file with gemini.  Then you don't need the Gemini fonts
	etc.

	-- Greg