cmm1@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Christopher M Mauritz) (10/03/89)
I must agree with the person that brought up the subject of a lack of an Appletalk interface on the Spectre GCR. I would own a Spectre now if the Appletalk support was included. Almost every job I've had in recent memory had an Appletalk network and a nice Laserwriter NX II at the end of it. How I would have loved to have had a Mega 4 on my desk running spectre (w/appletalk) instead of a wimpy little Mac plus. I had my current boss convinced into buying 30-40 Mega 4's with GCR packages until we realized that his Laserwriters would be useless without the Appletalk interface. (And don't try to tell me that we could have bought SM804', as they aren't nearly as good as the Apple printers). So the end result was that he ended up buying 25 Mac IIcx's. Typical end to a typical Atari story...sigh... Chris ------------------------------+--------------------------- Chris Mauritz |Everything tastes better cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu |when it sits on a (c)All rights reserved. |mauRITZ. 8-> Send flames to /dev/null | ------------------------------+---------------------------
hv@chyde.uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama LAKE) (10/03/89)
In article <CMM.0.88.623376802.cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu> cmm1@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: >I must agree with the person that brought up the subject of a lack of >an Appletalk interface on the Spectre GCR. I would own a Spectre now >if the Appletalk support was included. Almost every job I've had in In front of me I have a German Atari magazine (ST magazin; Markt und Technik, 10/89). Here is an add from Fearn & Musik (Stuttgart) that sells Spectre 128 and GCR (GCR price is DM725,- (without ROMS) and DM1025,- with ROMS) In the bottom line of this list there is a line: "Demnaechst: AppleTalk(tm) hardware Emulation" I'm not sure what "Demnaechst" means in this context but I think it gives promises that they are working it. Any comments Dave Small? -- Harri Valkama : email: hv@chyde.uwasa.fi (internet) Computer Centre, University of Vaasa : P.O.BOX 700 : voice: +358 61 248426 SF-65101 VAASA FINLAND : site: 128.214.12.3
jca@pnet01.cts.com (John C. Archambeau) (10/04/89)
A good test of whether or not AppleTalk emulation works is to take TOPS for
Mac and run it or to hook the ST with a Spectre to a GatorBox. If it works,
then I'm convinced, if not, then it's more emulation hype. Although, I do
admit that AppleTalk is independant of the Mac since there are enough
AppleTalk boards for the PC out there.
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*--------------------------------------------------------------------------*/dnewton@carroll1.UUCP (Dave 'Yes, I'm weird' Newton) (10/04/89)
In article <472@crash.cts.com> jca@pnet01.cts.com (John C. Archambeau) writes: >A good test of whether or not AppleTalk emulation works is to take TOPS for >Mac and run it or to hook the ST with a Spectre to a GatorBox. If it works, It has to _have_ AppleTalk emulation before we can see if the emulation _works_... 8-( -- David L. Newton | dnewton@carroll1.UUCP | Quote courtesy of (414) 524-7343 (work) | dnewton@carroll1.cc.edu | Marie Niechwiadowicz, (414) 524-6809 (home) | 100 NE Ave, Waukesha, WI 53186 | Boston College. [Q]: How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? [A]: The fish.
covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) (10/05/89)
In article <CMM.0.88.623376802.cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu>, cmm1@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: > I must agree with the person that brought up the subject of a lack of > an Appletalk interface on the Spectre GCR. I would own a Spectre now > if the Appletalk support was included. Almost every job I've had in > recent memory had an Appletalk network and a nice Laserwriter NX II at > the end of it. How I would have loved to have had a Mega 4 on my desk > running spectre (w/appletalk) instead of a wimpy little Mac plus. I > had my current boss convinced into buying 30-40 Mega 4's with GCR > packages until we realized that his Laserwriters would be useless > without the Appletalk interface. (And don't try to tell me that we > could have bought SM804', as they aren't nearly as good as the Apple > printers). So the end result was that he ended up buying 25 Mac > IIcx's. Typical end to a typical Atari story...sigh... > > Chris To Dan Moore or David Small, What is your status on Appletalk?? I thought I read on GEnie that you had investigated it once. Am I mistaken?? It seems like instead of spending time on sound you could get more sales by making an Appletalk interface for the Spectre or the GCR. Couldn't you have included an Appletalk interface in the GCR?? Could the DC Port serial io box be used as an Appletalk interface?? There seems to be a lot of demand for the GCR with the Appletalk interface. Well, just wondering. Richard Covert . . . .
marclaan@neabbs.UUCP (MARC LAAN) (10/05/89)
Demnaechst is the German equivalent of ''real soon now''. ---> greetx, Marc Laan, Amsterdam, Holland.
hase@netmbx.UUCP (Hartmut Semken) (10/05/89)
In article <822@chyde.uwasa.fi> hv@chyde.uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama LAKE) writes: >In article <CMM.0.88.623376802.cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu> cmm1@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: >In front of me I have a German Atari magazine (ST magazin; Markt und >Technik, 10/89). Here is an add from Fearn & Musik (Stuttgart) that >sells Spectre 128 and GCR (GCR price is DM725,- (without ROMS) and >DM1025,- with ROMS) In the bottom line of this list there is a line: >"Demnaechst: AppleTalk(tm) hardware Emulation" > >I'm not sure what "Demnaechst" means in this context but I think it >gives promises that they are working it. Any comments Dave Small? Demnaechst means "real soon now". This ranges from weeks to years. I know of an engeneer, who tried to add Appletalk to the ST. The prototype board plugs to the Centronics (printer) port and has Appletalk, Apple Desk Top Bus and Centronics outputs. Works pretty well with an hacked version of Aladin (the german Stectre competitor). The bad news: It's exspensive. It does not make sense to pay DM 2000 for a Mac-emulator if you can get a Mac for DM 4000... hase -- Hartmut Semken, Lupsteiner Weg 67, 1000 Berlin 37 hase@netmbx.UUCP Dennis had stepped up into the top seat whet its founder had died of a lethal overdose of brick wall, taken while under the influence of a Ferrari and a bottle of tequila. (Douglas Adams; the long dark teatime...)
talaga@oxy.edu (David Scott Talaga) (08/29/90)
Does anyone have any information about getting Appletalk to work with Spectre GCR? The most recent update (2.65) came out last spring with rumors and breathings of a future Appletalk connection. Is there any more word on this? Does anybody have a means by which s/he has found a way to get Appletalk to work? (additional hardware?) Thanks David Talaga talaga@oxy.edu Occidental Chemistry Los Angeles
blackbox@pfunk.UUCP (Michael Kistenmacher) (09/01/90)
From article <108571@tiger.oxy.edu>, by talaga@oxy.edu (David Scott Talaga): > > Does anyone have any information about getting Appletalk to work with > Spectre GCR? The most recent update (2.65) came out last spring with The german Distibutor "Fearn and Music" in Stuttgart has presented it's Appletalk compatible Slotcard for the Mega ST. It is jacked in the MegaBus- Connector and applies 2 Appletalk Connectors to the ST under Spectre. On the Atari Trade in Duesseldorf they presented some Mac's and some ST's beeing connected under Appletalk. Work's fine. The price is 550 DM, which is about 300 Dollars. But I heard roumors, that Dave Small himself has developed a Appletalk Emulation Card for his product. He planned to come to the Atari Fair, but he didn't appear. Bye...Mike -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | listen to the coolest ! | Michael kistenmacher / blackbox | | Music from the Galaxy ! | 2000 Hamburg 61 / Radenwisch 82 | | !!! P-Funk !!! | West Germany /++ 49 40 550 65 56 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t19@nikhefh.nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) (09/07/90)
There is a 2page review of this Appletalk board in this month's (Dutch) STart. GEM access to Appletalk is promised RSN.