mrose@eeserv1.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael Rose) (10/24/90)
Hello everyone! I sent a post about this a couple of days ago, but it seems to have vanished... oh, well... I was hoping that someone could please explain how to set up MGR to run under MiNT. I have gotten it to run, but I still can't seem to get the icons and different fonts to work at all. Could someone post an example MGR.RC file which shows the proper way of setting up the default paths? How do you use the font program? Also, I can't seem to get Gulam to work with MGR. How do I get MGR to run the VT52.PRG before it executes Gulam? Also, I tried using BGACC with MiNT and it gives me two bombs when I get the item selector to run a prg in the backround. I only had Folder300.prg in the auto folder with MiNT following, and no other prgrams or accs. The only other thing that was installed was my hard disk autobooting driver, the Atari one that came with my Megafile 44. I am using TOS 1.4. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks very much! Sincerely, Michael Rose -- ============================================================================
hyc@math.lsa.umich.edu (Howard Chu) (10/24/90)
In article <1990Oct23.181421.23453@sbcs.sunysb.edu> mrose@eeserv1.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael Rose) writes: >Hello everyone! > I sent a post about this a couple of days ago, but it seems >to have vanished... oh, well... I was hoping that someone could >please explain how to set up MGR to run under MiNT. I have gotten it >to run, but I still can't seem to get the icons and different fonts to >work at all. Could someone post an example MGR.RC file which shows >the proper way of setting up the default paths? How do you use the >font program? Also, I can't seem to get Gulam to work with MGR. How >do I get MGR to run the VT52.PRG before it executes Gulam? > Also, I tried using BGACC with MiNT and it gives me two bombs >when I get the item selector to run a prg in the backround. I only had >Folder300.prg in the auto folder with MiNT following, and no other prgrams or >accs. The only other thing that was installed was my hard disk autobooting >driver, the Atari one that came with my Megafile 44. I am using TOS 1.4. >Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks very much! How much memory do you have? For your mgr startup, try something like setenv MGRFONT c:/mgr/icon For Gulam, you can start up VT52.PRG yourself. I use "half" to create a new window running the vt52 program, e.g. half vt52 I don't use Gulam in mgr. I suppose it would be good to recompile Gulam to use termcap and the MiNT calls, but I thought Jwahar Bammi was doing that. I recompiled the microemacs that comes with Mark Williams C, using termcap, and I just use that now. -- -- Howard Chu @ University of Michigan one million data bits stored on a chip, one million bits per chip if one of those data bits happens to flip, one million data bits stored on the chip...
ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) (10/24/90)
- Also, I tried using BGACC with MiNT and it gives me two bombs when I - get the item selector to run a prg in the backround. I only had - Folder300.prg in the auto folder with MiNT following, and no other - prgrams or accs. The only other thing that was installed was my - hard disk autobooting driver, the Atari one that came with my - Megafile 44. I am using TOS 1.4. Does anyone have any suggestions? - Thanks very much! I had this occur also, but when I didn't have UIS III installed. When it wasn't installed I got the two bombs. When I installed it from the AUTO folder, I didn't get the two bombs, but I still got the regular file selector, no UIS. Weird. BTW, BGACC and Mint is nice! I don't use Mint at all, but I wanted to try out BGACC. I was running Forem through BGACC. Text display was kinda strange, but everything worked okay. I need more memory though. It was REAL tight on a meg. FYI, I have an STe with ICDBOOT 4.8.4. -- ========================================================================== Ed Krimen - ekrimen@csuchico.edu - ||| SysOp, Fuji BBS 916-894-1261 Video Production Major ||| [ THIS SPACE AVAILABLE ] California State University, Chico / | \ [ LEAVE E-MAIL ]
mrose@eeserv1.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael Rose) (10/25/90)
In article <1990Oct23.214236.13561@math.lsa.umich.edu> hyc@math.lsa.umich.edu (Howard Chu) writes: >In article <1990Oct23.181421.23453@sbcs.sunysb.edu> mrose@eeserv1.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael Rose) writes: >>Hello everyone! > >> I sent a post about this a couple of days ago, but it seems >>to have vanished... oh, well... I was hoping that someone could >>please explain how to set up MGR to run under MiNT. I have gotten it >>to run, but I still can't seem to get the icons and different fonts to >>work at all. Could someone post an example MGR.RC file which shows >>the proper way of setting up the default paths? How do you use the >>font program? Also, I can't seem to get Gulam to work with MGR. How >>do I get MGR to run the VT52.PRG before it executes Gulam? >> Also, I tried using BGACC with MiNT and it gives me two bombs >>when I get the item selector to run a prg in the backround. I only had >>Folder300.prg in the auto folder with MiNT following, and no other prgrams or >>accs. The only other thing that was installed was my hard disk autobooting >>driver, the Atari one that came with my Megafile 44. I am using TOS 1.4. >>Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks very much! > >How much memory do you have? I have two megs. >For your mgr startup, try something like > setenv MGRFONT c:/mgr/icon I tried it, it still doesn't work. You are talking about the MGR.RC file right? Where should it be located? What shoudl I call the file? And what about the MGR.RC file in the font directory, what do I do with that one? >For Gulam, you can start up VT52.PRG yourself. I use "half" to create a >new window running the vt52 program, e.g. > half vt52 What is half? And what does it do? >I don't use Gulam in mgr. I suppose it would be good to recompile Gulam to >use termcap and the MiNT calls, but I thought Jwahar Bammi was doing that. >I recompiled the microemacs that comes with Mark Williams C, using termcap, >and I just use that now. >-- > -- Howard Chu @ University of Michigan > one million data bits stored on a chip, one million bits per chip > if one of those data bits happens to flip, > one million data bits stored on the chip... Thanks! Michael Rose -- ============================================================================
dstailey@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Doug Stailey) (10/25/90)
In article <1990Oct23.181421.23453@sbcs.sunysb.edu> you write: > > Also, I tried using BGACC with MiNT and it gives me two bombs >when I get the item selector to run a prg in the backround. I only had >Folder300.prg in the auto folder with MiNT following, and no other prgrams or >accs. The only other thing that was installed was my hard disk autobooting >driver, the Atari one that came with my Megafile 44. I am using TOS 1.4. >Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks very much! > > Michael Rose Whoops! I hit R instead of F and mailed this when I wanted to post it. Soooory. Currently, BGACC will only run .TOS programs. The source code was posted to comp.source.atari.st, and I picked it up yesterday, hoping to make it work with .TTP programs. I may actually get around to this sometime soon, but don't hold your breath. Now for my question. I want to be able to run a terminal program under MiNT and (hopefully) MGR. My fully functional copy of C-Kermit runs under both, and accepts input from the remote machine. However, nothing I type is echoed or noticed on the other end. Are there any special settings I need to make, or is there another terminal program that works? -- disclaimer: This message is sold by weight, not volume. Contents may have settled during shipment. -- disclaimer: This message is sold by weight, not volume. Contents may have settled during shipment.
hyc@math.lsa.umich.edu (Howard Chu) (10/26/90)
In article <11553@life.ai.mit.edu> dstailey@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Doug Stailey) writes: >Now for my question. I want to be able to run a terminal program under >MiNT and (hopefully) MGR. My fully functional copy of C-Kermit runs >under both, and accepts input from the remote machine. However, >nothing I type is echoed or noticed on the other end. Are there any >special settings I need to make, or is there another terminal >program that works? It's probably trying to read from the same device MGR reads from, or something along those lines. (And failing.) I wrote a small dumb terminal program that I use with MiNT/MGR, available on atari.archive in the telecomm directory - tip.arc. (Modeled after Unix tip, but quite a bit less of a program... }-) The standalone zmodem programs seem to work OK, except the code to determine the baud rate doesn't yield correct results when MiNT is running. This usually results in the rz/sz program resetting the line to 19200 instead of accepting the current speed. I recompiled the stuff with that speed determination code #ifdef'd out to get it working... -- -- Howard Chu @ University of Michigan Mac// - adv., q.v. MacToo, e.g. McHave a McHappy McDay! McThanks, McYou MacToo!
7103_2622@uwovax.uwo.ca (Eric Smith) (10/26/90)
>In article <1990Oct23.181421.23453@sbcs.sunysb.edu> mrose@eeserv1.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael Rose) writes: > I sent a post about this a couple of days ago, but it seems >to have vanished... oh, well... I was hoping that someone could >please explain how to set up MGR to run under MiNT. I have gotten it >to run, but I still can't seem to get the icons and different fonts to >work at all. Could someone post an example MGR.RC file which shows >the proper way of setting up the default paths? How do you use the >font program? Also, I can't seem to get Gulam to work with MGR. How >do I get MGR to run the VT52.PRG before it executes Gulam? The environment variables must be set *before* MGR is run. For example, if you're using the default init.prg that comes with MiNT, put commands like setenv MGRFONT c:/mgr/font setenv MGRICON c:/mgr/icon in it. The MGR.RC has nothing to do with setting up these paths; rather, it allows you to customize the MGR environment. See the mgr.1 file in the docs/ directory. As for Gulam -- try "vt52 gulam" while in the same directory as gulam. WARNING: make sure your gulam.g file turns off mouse handling; otherwise, gulam will steal the mouse vector from MGR and mess things up. Also, gulam isn't very nicely behaved in a multitasking environment, because it redefines the keyboard; if it's killed accidentally, the keyboard stays redefined, which makes for big problems when another program gets loaded into the memory gulam used to occupy (the keyboard map gets filled with random garbage). > Also, I tried using BGACC with MiNT and it gives me two bombs >when I get the item selector to run a prg in the backround. I only had >Folder300.prg in the auto folder with MiNT following, and no other prgrams or >accs. The only other thing that was installed was my hard disk autobooting >driver, the Atari one that came with my Megafile 44. I am using TOS 1.4. >Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks very much! Strange. Does the bomb happen after you select the program to run? If so, it's probably the program you picked. If not, try hitting CTRL-ALT-F1 twice after you've picked the program but before you click on "OK". You'll get a detailed report of what's going on inside of MiNT, which may help you to isolate the problem. -- Eric R. Smith email: Dept. of Mathematics ersmith@uwovax.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario ersmith@uwovax.bitnet London, Ont. Canada N6A 5B7 ph: (519) 661-3638