[comp.sys.atari.st] How to hook-up a MicroSoft mouse to an Atari ST

jeff@onion.pdx.com (Jeff Beadles) (11/15/90)

Here's a repost of my article of wayyyy back (Feb 1989) on how to hook an
Microsoft mouse to an Atari ST.  No software changes are required.  All it
takes is creating a special cable between the mouse and the Atari.

I've been using a Microsoft mouse now for around 2 years on my 1040, with nary
a glitch.  It's so much better than the Atari mouse, I'd never go back. (IMHO)



Well, here is how to connect a Microsoft Mouse to an Atari ST.  (520/1040)
The Atari has a 9-pin D-type connector.  The Microsoft Mouse has a rather
strange connector on the end.  To prevent having to cut the mouse cable up,
I made this adaptor.  If you still can't follow it, please let me know and
I'll try to redescribe it.  This does work for me.  I've been using it for
6 or so months now [Note, it's been 2 years now!] with no problems at all.
It does take some soldering skills, so if you're not so hot at soldering,
find a friend to help.


As far as I know, this does not effect your Atari's warranty.  However, I
have not asked Atari.

Atari ST	Microsoft Mouse			ST expected signal
----- --	--------- -----                 -- -------- ------
1		5				XB
2		3				XA
3		8				YA
4		9				YB
5		N/C				N/C
6		2				Left button
7		N/C				+5VDC (N/C)
8*		6 and also tie to pin 1		Ground
9		7				Right button

* = I am not sure why I have pins 6 & 1 tied together, but it does work.

The Microsoft mouse connector looks like this.  This is the solder side,
with the leads pointing up.

  ---------------
  |     1       |
  |  2 3 4 5    |
  | 6 7 8 9 10  |
  |             |
  ---------------


  If you can not use the connector, the pins are numbered as follows.  This
  is the connector side from the Microsoft Mouse plug:


	  /------------\	This is a view at the front of the connector.
	 / Blank "KEY"  \	It is where the plug from the mouse would be.
	/----------------\	The pin labeled 'n' is not connected.
	| n   4   X   8  |	The place labeled 'X' is filled, and does not
	| 9   7   1   2  |	have a pin.
	|     5   6      |
	 \              /
	  \------------/ 


Have fun!

	-Jeff
-- 
Jeff Beadles		jeff@onion.pdx.com

rossj@cognos.UUCP (Ross Judson) (11/18/90)

For those who don't want to face wiring up a Microsoft mouse to their
Atari, there is another solution.  I just bought a Golden Image Mouse
and I'm very pleased with it.  They have an Atari ST version, so you
just plug it in.  The feel is similar to a Microsoft mouse, but the
mouse is slightly larger.  

It's made my working time with the computer much less stressful.  I
highly recommend it to anyone who works with their Atari a lot.

I'm not affiliated with this company in any way, I just like this
mouse.

It cost me $70 Canadian, and was worth every penny.  As a comparison,
the standard Atari mouse costs $45 here.
-- 
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Cognos Inc. ++ rossj@cognos.uucp               + enough is less than you need

chuck@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (charles bridgeland) (11/18/90)

your note prompted me to re-attempt getting my 3 button logitech to work.
it's very slightly different from the microsoft.  The two up/down wires
must be swapped--they are backwards from the microsoft configuration.
I connected the right and middle buttons--the middle and left buttons
work as right and left.  Logitech's "technical information" is too
sketchy for me to do more than guess what's going on (a page and a half
on hardware and many more pages about software stuff that's of no use
toan st user.)

ant@mks.com (Anthony Howe) (11/19/90)

Everyone keeps on talking about the Golden Mouse but no gives the frigging
address or phone number of where to order it from! Unfortunately, 
"What's This Computers" only seems to carry the Atari Mouse and they sometimes
take a bit of time in getting special orders.

BTW my mouse has been starting to lose the up direction. However I noticed
when i took off the cover and rolled forward and back that the ball was
slipping on the up motion. I cleaned the ball and it now works fine again.
I suspect that the spring in the support roller not strong enough to push the
ball tight up against the sensor rollers when rolling up or right.

- ant
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Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz (11/20/90)

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The Golden Image Mouse is available from E.Arthur Brown Co. 
3404 Pawnee Drive,Alexandria,MN 56308 Phone 612/762-8847 or 800/322-4405
the price in there latest Catalog is $44.95 US
We don't have the Atari one here in New Zealand, but i am using
a Amiga one with the Brown and Yellow wires reverse, the cost here
is between $60-75 NZ. I payed $60 for mine
I have seen Golden Image product advertised in some UK. Mags.
it is a good Mouse but the cord is to long...