mjducey@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Matthew J. Ducey) (11/16/90)
I was messing around with the pagestream demo and, well it works. It only crashed once on me, which really ain't that bad for them(zing). I have never seen Calmus(nor do I know how to spell it!). Is there a demo of that around? Which is better? I'm not looking to make a living out of this, just some reports and such. I don't suppose they offer us poor students a break, do they? -- But I still like my ST... GEnie M.DUCEY SOCEUR (A) Bitnet mjducey@suvm "But Sgt. Airborne, look how high we are!" mjducey@rodan.acs.syr.edu Anyone have/use TALK type 4.2?
jvt@its.bt.co.uk (John Trickey) (11/19/90)
In article <1990Nov15.231137.6168@rodan.acs.syr.edu> mjducey@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Matthew J. Ducey) writes: >I was messing around with the pagestream demo and, well it works. >It only crashed once on me, which really ain't that bad for them(zing). > >I have never seen Calmus(nor do I know how to spell it!). Is there a >demo of that around? Which is better? I'm not looking to make a living >out of this, just some reports and such. >I don't suppose they offer us poor students a break, do they? Personally, I like Timeworks as a cheap, #75 (~$150) but powerful package. I can only compare it with Calamus and quite frankly for the price, Timeworks knocks spots off it! Timeworks is GDOS based and hence can use just about any font available in that format. Its advantage is with the bit-mapped fonts as these translate to dot-matrix printers or lasers quite well. Calamus uses outline fonts which when displayed even on a Lasejet II look blocky and ragged!! Where Calamus wins is in the graphics. It can handle both vector and raster graphics well including facilities for uploading from a scanner. Timeworks only uses bitmapped graphics and suffers if the image is severely compressed. To be fair I must mention the ages of the packages, My version of Timeworks I think is 1.12 and is 1 year old. Calamus I saw on a friends computer and was *considerably* older than that - things do advance so draw your own conclusions. John -- John Trickey <jvt@its.bt.co.uk> || ..!mcsun!ukc!axion!its G4REV @ GB7SUT Voice: +44 21 333 3369 #include <std/disclaimer>
steve@thelake.mn.org (Steve Yelvington) (11/21/90)
[jvt@its.bt.co.uk writes ... ] > Personally, I like Timeworks as a cheap, #75 (~$150) but powerful package. > I can only compare it with Calamus and quite frankly for the price, Timeworks > knocks spots off it! Timeworks is GDOS based and hence can use just about > any font available in that format. Its advantage is with the bit-mapped > fonts as these translate to dot-matrix printers or lasers quite well. > Calamus uses outline fonts which when displayed even on a Lasejet II look > blocky and ragged!! This runs absolutely counter to every experience I have had with Calamus, GDOS and font technology in general -- and I've been working with typesetters for 20 years. Outline fonts are used to create bitmaps on the fly at optimum resolutions, for each desired point size. PostScript, Calamus, DeskSet II and PageStream's built-in printer drivers are all examples of outline font technology. There is considerable variation in the quality, but all are better than GDOS. I'm looking forward to seeing the new outline-font GDOS shown at Comdex last week. The Z*Net report suggests that it uses a PostScript-clone to generate bitmaps from outline masters. ---- Steve Yelvington / P. O. Box 38 / Marine on St. Croix, MN 55047 USA INTERNET: steve@thelake.mn.org UUCP: plains!umn-cs!thelake!steve
stephen@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Steve Whitney) (11/21/90)
In article <A89789813@thelake.mn.org> steve@thelake.mn.org (Steve Yelvington) writes: > >Outline fonts are used to create bitmaps on the fly at optimum resolutions, >for each desired point size. PostScript, Calamus, DeskSet II and PageStream's >built-in printer drivers are all examples of outline font technology. >There is considerable variation in the quality, but all are better than >GDOS. > >I'm looking forward to seeing the new outline-font GDOS shown at Comdex >last week. The Z*Net report suggests that it uses a PostScript-clone >to generate bitmaps from outline masters. > I've seen output form the new GDOS, which is called FSM GDOS for Font Scaling Module Graphic Device Operating System. The stuff looks REALLY good. It uses the Ultrascript fonts, and it even substitutes fonts for real italics. Uses the same outlines for all devices so what you see will truly be what you get. Finally, it's very compatible with older GDOS programs and it can rotate text to any angle (0-360 degrees in 1/10 degree incrents). --Steve >---- > Steve Yelvington / P. O. Box 38 / Marine on St. Croix, MN 55047 USA > INTERNET: steve@thelake.mn.org UUCP: plains!umn-cs!thelake!steve -- Steve Whitney "It's never _really_ the last minute" (())_-_(()) UCLA Comp. Sci. Grad. Student | (* *) | Internet: stephen@cs.ucla.edu UCLA Bruin--> { \_@_/ } GEnie: S.WHITNEY (To Cal: We still have the axe!) `-----'