selick@bucsf.bu.edu (Steven Selick) (11/18/90)
has anybody been able to run xterm on atari? what software will do this? -steve selick@bucsf.bu.edu
pfuetz@zgdvda.zgdvda.uucp (Matthias Pfuetzner) (11/20/90)
Hello!
Because this question arises from time to time I'd like to give some
hints:
Atari Germany (ATARI Computer GmbH, Frankfurter Strasse 89-91, D-6096
Raunheim, FRG, Tel: +49 6142 2090) is selling a complete port of the
X-environment for all ST's and TT's. The only requirement is a main
memory of at least 2 MB. This port was done by a company in Germany
(X software, Marktstrasse 8, D-8944 Groenenbach, FRG, Tel.: +49 8334
1411, Fax: +49 8334 6245). It is sold since Nov 1st, 1990. Below is a
pricelist I received last week from X software.
The product is called "X/ST/window" and consists of different parts:
1. Computer
ATARI 1040 ST/E (2 MB, without Monitor) 1498,- DM
ATARI 1040 ST/E (4 MB, without Monitor) 1998,- DM
ATARI Mega ST 2 (2 MB, without Monitor) 1298,- DM
ATARI Mega ST 4 (4 MB, without Monitor) 1798,- DM
ATARI TT030-4 (4 MB, with 14'' VGA Monitor, 48 MB Harddisk) 6098,- DM
ATARI TT030-6 (6 MB, with 14'' VGA Monitor, 48 MB Harddisk) 6698,- DM
ATARI TT030-8 (8 MB, with 14'' VGA Monitor, 48 MB Harddisk) 7198,- DM
2. Monitors
ATARI SM124 (for 1040 and Mega ST) 318,- DM
ATARI SM194 (for Mega ST) 3998,- DM
3. Ethernet-interfaces
ATARI Net (plug in MEGA ST, Cheapernet/Thinnet and Ethernet/Thicknet,
only for MEGA ST and only in combination with SM124) 998,- DM
Biodata BioNet 100 II (For extern connection to DMA port)
(Cheapernet/Thinnet) 1398,- DM
(Ethernet/Thicknet) 1398,- DM
Riebl Card Plus (plug in TT, VME Bus, Cheapernet/Thinnet and Ethernet/Thicknet)
998,- DM
4. Software
X/ST/window (for only monitor SM124) 598,- DM
X/software X/ST/window/SM194 (monitors SM124 and SM194) 678,- DM
X/software X/TT/window 998,- DM
5. Packages
ATARI 1040 ST/E (2 MB), SM124, BioNet 100 II, X/ST/window 3750,- DM
ATARI 1040 ST/E (4 MB), SM124, BioNet 100 II, X/ST/window/SM194 4050,- DM
ATARI Mega ST 2 (2 MB), SM124, ATARI-Net, X/ST/window 3150,- DM
ATARI Mega ST 4 (4 MB), SM124, ATARI-Net, X/ST/window 3650,- DM
ATARI Mega ST 4 (4 MB), SM124, ATARI-Net, X/ST/window/SM194 3690,- DM
ATARI Mega ST 4 (4 MB), SM194, BioNet 100 II, X/ST/window/SM194 7700,- DM
Prices include package, but no shipping, no value-added tax (currently
14% in Germany). The dollar sells today for 1.46 DM which means you
have to multiply the prices in DM by 1.5 and add 14% to get final
prices (but without shipping).
Some words to the software: X/ST/window/SM194 allows to simulate
multiple SCREENS on ONE monitor (as is for example the case with the
MIT X-Server for color SUN workstations, moving the mouse of the
screen produces a second on the color SUN).
X/ST/window is based on X/ST/multi a multitasking OS completly
compatible to TOS. It offers FTP, telnet, etc.
X/ST/window displays only a portion of the actual screen. The width
and height of the virtual screen are only limited by the available
main memory. Moving mouse to the border of the virtual frame scrolls
frame automatically.
X/ST/window is yet X11R3.
Disclaimer: I haven't yet seen the software nor am I in any connection
to ATARI or X software. This is simple a typed in version of a letter
I recept last week in order to let the world know that ATARI itself is
doing some effort in recovering lost ground. ATARI claims to be
selling this soft- and hardware worldwide.
Matthias
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pfuetzner@agd.fhg.de pfuetzner@zgdvda.UUCP XBR1YD3U@DDATHD21.BITNETgcarter@globey.cs.wisc.edu (Gregory Carter) (11/22/90)
Gosh I have been trying for EVER to see if anyone uses X protocol on the ST just for a simple workstation!! I never got an answer. --Gregory
herbert@tubkom.UUCP (Herbert Almus) (11/23/90)
Hi, we are using the xwindow software of Atari Germany and have also some experiences with different prereleases since december 1989 (delivered by X software, the developer). Configuration: Atari: Mega ST4, BioNet 100 II - LAN interface, SM124 monitor Hosts: HP9000/3xx systems The software is reliable, the performance fast/acceptable (don't compare it with a SPARCstation). Problems: Sometimes we do have problems with our LAN (campus net). If we have a lot of garbage on the net, the system becomes instable ( n bombs, reset required). But this happens only arround 5 or 6 times a year. Remarks: The Atari side offers only TFTP (trivial ftp, UDP based), but you can use FTP (reliable transfer) if you start file transfer on the host. The transfer rate (filetransfer) is growing from relase to relase. Now: 10-20 kByte/s. We expect further improvement, because we know, that transfer rates above 50 kBytes/s are possible. We reached this rate using the tcp/ip software (ftp) of BIODATA GmbH (the vendor of the interface card). BIODATA offers also xwindow software, but I don't know anything about prices, performance etc. Herbert Almus