ralph@laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek) (12/04/90)
Don't forget TT's are already on sale elsewhere (a little expensive though)! Enjoy, -- Ralph P. Sobek Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own. ralph@laas.fr Addresses are ordered by importance. ralph@laas.uucp, or ...!uunet!laas!ralph If all else fails, try: sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU =============================================================================== Reliable software should kill people reliably! -Andy Mickel, Pascal News #13,78
cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) (12/04/90)
In article <RALPH.90Dec3173300@orion.laas.fr> ralph@laas.fr writes: >Don't forget TT's are already on sale elsewhere (a little expensive though)! Realy??? How much? Just to piss glh off...I saw a demo of the new NextStation today. Someone earlier mentioned that the windowing system was very slow. That doesn't seem to be a problem. Seems that when you throw a 25mhz 68040 at the GUI, it seems fine. I didn't notice any slowness. However, the machine wasn't running THAT many tasks at the time either. The educational pricing makes the thing so cheap that you could throw in the NeXt 400dpi laser printer too and have a very nice unix system with scads of included software at ~$4500. >Enjoy, OK, working on it. :-) Cheers, Chris ------------------------------+--------------------------- Chris Mauritz |D{r det finns en |l, finns cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu |det en plan! (c)All rights reserved. | Send flames to /dev/null | ------------------------------+---------------------------
wolf@cbnewsh.att.com (thomas.wolf) (12/04/90)
From article <1990Dec3.200650.25435@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, by cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz): > In article <RALPH.90Dec3173300@orion.laas.fr> ralph@laas.fr writes: >>Don't forget TT's are already on sale elsewhere (a little expensive though)! > > > Realy??? How much? > > Just to piss glh off...I saw a demo of the new NextStation today. Someone > earlier mentioned that the windowing system was very slow. That doesn't > seem to be a problem. Seems that when you throw a 25mhz 68040 at the GUI, > it seems fine. I didn't notice any slowness. However, the machine wasn't > running THAT many tasks at the time either. The educational pricing makes > the thing so cheap that you could throw in the NeXt 400dpi laser printer > too and have a very nice unix system with scads of included software at ~$4500. > Just to continue this non-ST discussion.... Please explain your $4500 price. Someone posted the NextStation educational prices a couple days ago. I believe a usable system came in around $5000 for mono and $6500 for color - and that is without the 400 dpi printer you mention. >>Enjoy, Enjoy. -- +-------------------------------------+ "Stupid" questions are better than | Thomas Wolf | (201) 615-4789 | no questions at all. No answer is | Bell Labs, NJ | wolf@mink.att.com | better than a stupid one. +-------------------------------------+
mjs@hpfcso.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella) (12/05/90)
>Besides, even the stuff that did pass must've been marginal. My old >1040ST used to create snow on any TV I was watching in the same room. >Of course, matters didn't get much better when I removed the RF shielding >to make room for my RAM expansion board. :-) My favorite was always Emacs, which, when run from within Forthmacs, generated noise on my AM radio. I'd be working away, listening to the ballgame, but as soon as I netered Emacs, I got static. Not on disk access, mind you. The character read loop apparently went through exactly the right instruction sequence to generate noise at just the right frequency to interrupt KSFO.
sytang@boulder.ColoState.EDU (Shoou-yu tang) (12/05/90)
The mono Nextstation's Educational price various from $2995 to $3995 dependent on the individual school's willing to sign with NeXT. So the preious $4995 for a mono NeXTstation with 400DPI laser printer is not unreasonable. The price you quote is not educational discount price. Tang Colorado State University sytang@lamar.colostate.edu
leo@mat500.uucp (C. Bullerdick) (12/05/90)
ralph@laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek) writes: >Don't forget TT's are already on sale elsewhere (a little expensive though)! "elswhere" may mean in 5 of the 10 computer-stores in a 5-km area round the place where i am writing this. I'm shure that it's the same in nearly every city in germany, and the TT is not as expensiv as it was right before yesterday. >Enjoy, Really, enjoy! >-- >Ralph P. Sobek Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own. >ralph@laas.fr Addresses are ordered by importance. >ralph@laas.uucp, or ...!uunet!laas!ralph >If all else fails, try: sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU >=============================================================================== >Reliable software should kill people reliably! -Andy Mickel, Pascal News #13,78 C. "Leo" B.
depeche@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (Acme Instant Dehydrated Boulder Kit) (12/05/90)
In article <7340043@hpfcso.HP.COM> mjs@hpfcso.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella) writes: >My favorite was always Emacs, which, when run from within Forthmacs, generated >noise on my AM radio. I'd be working away, listening to the ballgame, but as >soon as I netered Emacs, I got static. Not on disk access, mind you. The >character read loop apparently went through exactly the right instruction >sequence to generate noise at just the right frequency to interrupt KSFO. My supercharger causes lots of interference with my cordless phone. There's a little red "data" light which goes on every time my screen's contents are changed (i.e. every time a character is written to a screen, or whatever). So I have a corner clock on my computer, and the time changes every second. If I'm on the phone, I hear high-pitched little beeps which last a milisecond or so, almost as if a radar is scanning me or something. First time this happened, I didn't know WHAT to do.. what's really fun though is when I am on the phone, and my idle screen saver kicks in. All of a sudden the screen is filled with fireworks, and every time a pixel is written to the screen, "blip"... Actually, the blips in a strange way make the fireworks more interesting. One time I was talking to someone, heard the noise and saw my screen, and just stopped talking in mid sentence.... hello? hello? the person on the other end just heard some weird sounds, and almost hung up on me.... -- |S. Alan Ezust | depeche@cs.mcgill.ca | |McGill University School of Computer Science | Montreal, Quebec, Canada | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| | "Sing while you may, only LOUDER!" |
ralph@laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek) (12/06/90)
In article <1990Dec3.200650.25435@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: | | In article <RALPH.90Dec3173300@orion.laas.fr> ralph@laas.fr | writes: >Don't forget TT's are already on sale elsewhere (a little | expensive though)! | | Realy??? How much? List price starts at around 16000 FF. -- Ralph P. Sobek Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own. ralph@laas.fr Addresses are ordered by importance. ralph@laas.uucp, or ...!uunet!laas!ralph If all else fails, try: sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU =============================================================================== Reliable software should kill people reliably! -Andy Mickel, Pascal News #13,78