alex@hpqtdla.sqf.hp.com (Alex Ballantyne) (12/04/90)
Hello,
I'm looking for some information about the experiences people
have had with the various PC emulators that are available for
the ST. I'm interested in both the "hardware and software"
and the "all software" types.
I'll probably spend most of the time running CAD programs for
electronics (schematic capture, PCB design and simulation) so
graphics and speed are likely to be most important features.
Some idea of how easy they are to live with would be most
welcome too.
Thanks for your time,
Alex.
Alex Ballantyne,
Hewlett Packard Ltd.
Queensferry Telecoms. Div.
South Queensferry,
Scotland, U.K.
alex@hpsqf.sqf.hp.comcadp15@vaxa.strath.ac.uk (12/11/90)
In article <15760001@hpqtdla.sqf.hp.com>, alex@hpqtdla.sqf.hp.com (Alex Ballantyne) writes: [...stuff deleted...] > I'm looking for some information about the experiences people > have had with the various PC emulators that are available for > the ST. I'm interested in both the "hardware and software" > and the "all software" types. > > I'll probably spend most of the time running CAD programs for > electronics (schematic capture, PCB design and simulation) so > graphics and speed are likely to be most important features. > Some idea of how easy they are to live with would be most > welcome too. DO NOT go for PC Ditto (the software version, not PC Ditto II which I've never tried) as it is terminally slow... The fastest its ever reached was a Norton of 0.3 - about one third the speed of a 4.77 MHz IBM PC, the slowest it ever reached was a Norton of 0.0... It is fine if all you want to do is a run a few programs now and again, but otherwise is totally useless. -- The Sorcerer is 'Only visiting this planet' but can be found at: (cadx862 @ uk.ac.strathclyde.computer-centre-sun) (cadp15 @ uk.ac.strathclyde.vaxb) or second star to the right and straight on 'till morning.
rgoseweh@digi.lonestar.org (Roy Gosewehr) (12/13/90)
In article <1990Dec11.113430.9394@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> cadp15@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes: > >DO NOT go for PC Ditto (the software version, not PC Ditto II which I've never >tried) as it is terminally slow... The fastest its ever reached was a Norton >of 0.3 - about one third the speed of a 4.77 MHz IBM PC, the slowest it ever >reached was a Norton of 0.0... It is fine if all you want to do is a run a >few programs now and again, but otherwise is totally useless. "The Sorcerer" is right in respect to CAD software -- you would not be able to live with PC-Ditto (the software emulator) as it would be waaay too slow for that type of application. However, for other programs such as the Quicken financial package, PC-Ditto (while not blazingly fast) gives acceptable performance IMHO. The other neat things about 'Ditto are that it is CHEAP and SOLID. I have yet to to find a non-game IBM program that won't run under it including SuperProject Expert and ABT's Project Workbench (both of which retail at or over $1000). I have even run GEM/3 desktop (slowly) but did have some trouble getting the mouse to operate correctly. (In this case it appeared that the mouse could not be "sampled" often enough to provide a "real-time" response to the user.) R.C.G.
smisra@eos.ncsu.edu (12/14/90)
Does anyone have PC Ditto for sale...?? smisra@eos.ncsu.edu
s37837k@saha.hut.fi (Jari Lehto) (12/16/90)
There are good and fast emulators! I have the ATonce by Vortex GmbH, having 8 MHz 80286, and there is the ATspeed that has no big difference when compared to the ATonce. ATonce supports RS232 and other ST hardvare a bit better than ATspeed. There is no big difference in their prices, Hard & Soft A.Herber in Germany has both with same price! But there is something coming that may be worth waiting for... Omega Computer Systems in Germany is about to release a board that contains both 16 MHz MC68000 and 16 MHz 80386SX, both with 16 kb cache and both with socket for math co-processor. It also has max. 3 pcs. 16bit AT- slots for VGA-card etc.! And there is a possibility to have a max of 4 Mb RAM on the board, making real multitasking between TOS and MS-DOS possible! I received these information about 2 months ago as a telefax from the company itself, containing a full price-list. They were not ready for deliver one then, I haven't tried later. *** Jari Lehto, jartsu@otax.hut.fi, s37837k@saha.hut.fi ***