a360ad@blake.acs.washington.edu (Gnurr) (03/01/89)
I am considering buying the Seagate ST296N drive with ICD and Adaptec 4070..... has anybody had any experience with this setup? I would like to put MINIX on this drive. kevin a360ad@blake.acs.washington.edu
a360ad@blake.acs.washington.edu (Gnurr) (04/07/89)
Recovering from my aborted attempt at running a Seagate 296N
and Supra Host.... I am once again in the research stage of
purchasing a hard drive for my 1040ST system.
The following are my "requirements":
1. To succesfully run MINIX with minimal modification (don't know
how to modify drivers).
2. 80MB or more of memory
3. Prefer a built-in SCSI
4. 28ms or faster seek rate
5. Data transfer rate of 550 k/s or better
6. Quiet!
Anybody out there who has a drive(s) fitting the above, please
e-mail me.... or better yet... post to the net for the benefit of
others.
Thanks!
-kevin
a360ad@blake.acs.washington.eduhyc@math.lsa.umich.edu (Howard Chu) (04/08/89)
Try a Quantum 80S - 80MB, integrated SCSI controller, 11/19ms seek time (11 with a cache hit), 630+kb/sec transfer rate, quiet and cool. I'm using one with Minix right now, no troubles... -- -=- PrayerMail: Send 100Mbits to holyghost@father.son[127.0.0.1] and You Too can have a Personal Electronic Relationship with God!
Xorg@cup.portal.com (Peter Ted Szymonik) (04/09/89)
Quantam's are *very* nice, they are so quiet you can barely hear the stepper motors! They are pricy at around $750 though, but I just saw a post in the misc.forsale base from a guy who was selling a few of them that were three months old for $550! If I hadn't just bought a couple of Seagate 157Ns they'd be mine! Peter Szymonik Xorg@cup.portal.com Pro-Choice, Anti-Zealot
PETCHER@FSU.BITNET (04/29/89)
I have seen quite a bit on hard drive cnfigurations for large hard drives for
the ST (Seagate 277N - 65Mb or 296N - 80Mb , or Quantum 80 Mb), but haven't
seen anyone reporting my eventual solution. I started out by ordering one of
the new Berkeley Microsystem BMS200 boards, along with a case, power supply and
fan. I had planned to get a Miniscribe 6128 drive (RLL controlled, 110 Mb),
then selling at about $650, so I also ordered an Adaptec 4070 controller. The
whole package from BMS (board, controller, box, fan, cables) came to some
$300+. As my order was one of the first individual orders to be processed for
the BMS200, and the boards were just being developed, there was a couple month
delay. In the mean time the Miniscribe drives went down in price and then (to
my horror) went out of production (something better is coming along?). So when
I finally received my BMS box, there was no 6128 to be had! About the same
time, Lyco Computer Co. began to advertise an RLL controlled Seagate drive (the
4144R) rated at 120 Mb for about $680. I promptly ordered one. Because of
delays in shipping at the factory, there was another month delay before I could
get the drive, but finally when it arrived, I spent a short time figuring out
cables and hookups and got everything hooked up. Using Supra formatting
software (no one else goes beyond four 16K partitions that I know of) I
formatted the thing, and have had it running now for a couple weeks without
problems. So the result, despite all the delay is a drive of some 115Mb
formatted space for somewhere in the neighbourhood of $1000, which seems to be
a rather good value compared to other configurations announced so far. In
short, I recommend it (though I am still holding my breath).
Just thought I'd report a success story.
Don Petcher
Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
The Florida State University
Tallahassee, Florida 32306kllove@uokmax.uucp (Kenneth L Love) (09/18/90)
In article <1990Sep15.233100.21009@midway.uchicago.edu> ron@gsbsun.uchicago.edu (Ronald J. Rangel) writes: > >I really like those 44 meg carts for the ST but I cannot justify the >cost unless I can also somehow manage to use it with my PC too. (If I > >[stuff deleted] > >-Ron I'm in the market for a hard drive and was wondering what c.s.a.st's opinion of the 44 Meg removables are? Which are best based on cost, reliability, and support? Are the cartridges interchangeable from one to the next (specifi- cally Atari's and that one that comes full of PD software)? Is the one with the PD software available without getting the drive? Please e-mail replies. Thanks for the info, Kenneth Love
boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) (09/18/90)
In article <1990Sep18.001519.15704@uokmax.uucp>, kllove@uokmax.uucp (Kenneth L Love) writes: > >I'm in the market for a hard drive and was wondering what c.s.a.st's opinion >of the 44 Meg removables are? Which are best based on cost, reliability, and >support? Are the cartridges interchangeable from one to the next (specifi- >cally Atari's and that one that comes full of PD software)? Is the one with >the PD software available without getting the drive? > >Please e-mail replies. > > Thanks for the info, > Kenneth Love Well, you have 4 choices. All of them involve the Syquest SQ-555 44mb removable platter mech. Three companies (that I know of) make such a beast for the ST: Toad Computers, Carter Enterprises, and Atari. The fourth choice is to roll your own. I have a buddie that just bought a magnum Toadfile (this is the toadfile drive w/three cartridges), and he loves it. I would recommend it over the Atari unit because of both price and the ICD controller in the Toad. I have not heard much about the Carter entry, other than it is contained in a small shoebox-style case. The Toadfile has room and cables for one more device (but maybe only 3.5", I cannot remember). Since it is an embedded SCSI device, whipping one up yourself should be cake. Just get a baby AT case with power supply, and ICD host adaptor, and a Syquest. You can get a Computer Shopper and hunt down a Syquest mech (I was quoted a price of $519 about a month ago). Bolt all the stuff together, and voila. One last footnote: I have heard that Syquest is about to release a new mech that stores >100mb on a platter, and charge the same retail for it as the SQ-555. I do not know if this means the same price to the customer in the end though. If someone could confirm/deny this, I would appreciate it. -- ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Mickey R. Boyd | "God is a comedian playing to an FSU Computer Science | audience too afraid to laugh." Technical Support Group | email: boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu | - Voltaire ---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
jhenders@van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders) (09/18/90)
Re: Syquest Drives. I heard that Syquest announced release of a 175meg drive which would retail for the same price as the current 44meg unit. That was at the spring Comdex. At the same time they said they'd lower the 44meg price by $200US. I'm still waiting...... John Henders(jhenders@wimsey.bc.ca) Vancouver BC(ubc-cs!van-bc!jhenders)
jimmy@unix.cis.pitt.edu (James G Tauberg) (09/23/90)
In article <9009180348.AA09366@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu> boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) writes: > >Well, you have 4 choices. All of them involve the Syquest SQ-555 44mb >removable platter mech. Three companies (that I know of) make such a beast >for the ST: Toad Computers, Carter Enterprises, and Atari. The fourth choice >is to roll your own. I have a buddie that just bought a magnum Toadfile (this >is the toadfile drive w/three cartridges), and he loves it. I would recommend >it over the Atari unit because of both price and the ICD controller in the >Toad. I have not heard much about the Carter entry, other than it is contained >in a small shoebox-style case. The Toadfile has room and cables for one more >device (but maybe only 3.5", I cannot remember). The SyQuest Mech is a standard 1/2 height 5 1/4" drive. The TOADFILE has space to accomodate TWO of these 5 1/4" drives. NOTE: CARTER GRAPHICS's drive also uses ICD ADV+ host, and is also nice. They make several models... including an under monitor style (like TOAD) and also a SUPER small drive (just a bit bigger than a floppy drive. The front panel is about the same, but it is deeper.) >Since it is an embedded SCSI device, whipping one up yourself should be cake. >Just get a baby AT case with power supply, and ICD host adaptor, and a >Syquest. You can get a Computer Shopper and hunt down a >Syquest mech (I was quoted a price of $519 about a >month ago). Bolt all >the stuff together, and voila. NOTE: THE $519 SyQuest comes WITHOUT A CARTRIDGE!!!!! ----- A cartridge is an additiona $79 plus shipping... The ICD ADV + is (I believe) around $100. A HD Case and Power Supply is at least $80. A fan is cheap, about $10. CONCLUSION: After adding up all of these prices, and NOT INCLUDING ----------- Shipping charges, which may be substantial, we arrive at the figure $788.00. Seems like a lot of TROUBLE When one considers that the TOADFILE is about $850.00, and includes the larger UNDER MONITOR case which has a special power supply to supply TWO (2) drives, and has a case to handle 2 drives as well. I'm not affiliated with any of the above companies, and the opinions expressed are my own. I do own the TOADFILE, and a friend of mine owns the CARTER GRAPHICS drive. We are both very happy and consider our drives to be entirely equal. The only deciding factors in purchase should be case style preferences and locality to MD or Utah (where Toad and Carter are loacated respectively). I would also agree with the previous poster that the ICD ADVANTAGE PLUS host is far superior to any other, ceartanly better than the ATARI. I've read on usenet that people are having troubles with the ATARI when it comes to Swapping disks "on-the-fly" where the disks have different partition sizes... THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER in this type of process using ICD's ADVANTAGE... I consider this a HUGE ADVANTAGE.... PLUS, the ICD ADV+ comes with a battery backed clock that is a great Plus! About using SyQuest disks on other SyQuest drives. I have 2 froends with SyQuests (one Carter, one Toad). Between us we have 7 cartridges. All of these carts. are COMPLETELY compatible in any of our three drives!!! (of course if you had the ATARI host, you'd not be able to swap on-the-fly with these carts... because they are all partitioned differently.... including SPECTRE partitions.) Hope this helps, Jim Tauberg jimmy@unix.cis.pitt.edu jimmy@130.49.254.10 P.S. If you have any questions/comments post here or mail to the above address.
gaudreau@juggler.East.Sun.COM (Joe Gaudreau - Sun BOS Software) (09/26/90)
So what are the addresses/phone #'s of Toad and Carter? I'd like to
get more info about these and other drives!!
For that matter, how about a directory of everyone's favorite companies?
or is this too much like an advert?
Joe
-=-
--
/Joe-Gaudreau {ps-hacker juggler nice-guy add add} bind def
Fone: (508)671-0461
INet: gaudreau@East.Sun.Com
UUCP: sun!suneast!gaudreau
Snail: Sun Microsystems Inc - BDC, 2 Federal St, Billerica, MA 01821
"Juggling, not just a way of life"ricks@ncrcae.Columbia.NCR.COM (Rick Silverstein) (12/06/90)
Need some advice. I currently have a 520ST and want to purchase a hard drive. I am looking for recommendations on manufactures. Is it better to mail order or buy one locally? What are the standard prices? Thanks in advance. Rick
ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) (12/06/90)
- Need some advice.
The Doctor is in. Please have a seat. (Just kidding. Har har :^)
- I currently have a 520ST and want to purchase a hard drive. I am
- looking for recommendations on manufactures.
I think most people will agree that ICD is the way to go if you want
the best. Most third-party vendors sell ICD host adapters so you can
put together your own drive or have them assemble it for you. I have
a Seagate 157N-1, a 50meg (okay 48.9meg), 28 ms drive. I've had it
for a year and a half, treated it well, and it's worked flawlessly.
I have it in an ICD case. I've heard that fans in other cases are
kinda loud.
- Is it better to mail order or buy one locally?
If you have a good dealer nearby that has a good price, go for it.
If this isn't the case, there are many places that will put together
a drive usually with any size mechanism from any company. Toad
Computers (800-448-TOAD) is a reputable place. So is Carter Graphics
(801-628-6111). I bought mine from Joppa (800-876-6040). Joppa buys
the host adapter and case from ICD and buy the drives from Seagate
and assemble it for you. Ask your dealer if he will buy the case and
drive separately and put it together for you, or you can put it
together yourself.
- What are the standard prices?
A year and a half ago, I bought mine for $665. They now have the
same setup for $579 (September, 1990 issue of ST Informer).
Good luck. If you have any other questions, drop me a line.
--
Ed Krimen ...............................................
||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico
||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661
/ | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0david@bdt.COM (David Beckemeyer) (12/13/90)
In article <1990Dec05.231923.2497@ecst.csuchico.edu> ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) writes: >I think most people will agree that ICD is the way to go if you want >the best. Perhaps most would agree, but I don't agree at all. If you want the best, get the Berkeley Microsystems BMS-200 host adapter. Nothing else touches it in terms of getting the signals and timing right. ICD may be much more widely available, but that doesn't make it the best. >-- > Ed Krimen ............................................... > ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico > ||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661 > / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0 -- David Beckemeyer (david@bdt.COM) | "To understand ranch lingo all yuh Beckemeyer Development Tools | have to do is to know in advance what P.O. Box 21575, Oakland, CA 94620 | the other feller means an' then pay UUCP: {uunet,ucbvax}!unisoft!bdt!david | no attention to what he says"
ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) (12/14/90)
david@bdt.COM (David Beckemeyer) writes: - Perhaps most would agree, but I don't agree at all. If you want - the best, get the Berkeley Microsystems BMS-200 host adapter. - Nothing else touches it in terms of getting the signals and timing - right. - - ICD may be much more widely available, but that doesn't make it the - best. True, but doesn't ICD have the better driver software because of its caching and verifying capabilities? I have heard that the BMS-200 is better than ICDs, but I think that ICD's software that is included which, (from what I understand) doesn't work on other host adapters. -- Ed Krimen ............................................... ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico ||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661 / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0
meulenbr@cst.philips.nl (Frans Meulenbroeks) (12/14/90)
david@bdt.COM (David Beckemeyer) writes: >In article <1990Dec05.231923.2497@ecst.csuchico.edu> ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) writes: >>I think most people will agree that ICD is the way to go if you want >>the best. >Perhaps most would agree, but I don't agree at all. If you want the best, >get the Berkeley Microsystems BMS-200 host adapter. Nothing else touches >it in terms of getting the signals and timing right. You might be right about signals and timing. However, be sure to have your drive powered or disconnected whenever you power the ST. The BMS 200 pulls down some of the ST's lines on the DMA interface which wil fry the DMA chip if this lasts too long. I've found out about this the hard way & I definitely do not like it. On the other hand: the people at BMS are very helpful if you encounter problems. I once had a bad disk, and they gave me quite some support, even though I'm living in Europe, so phone and mail costs are not that cheap. -- Frans Meulenbroeks (meulenbr@cst.philips.nl) Centre for Software Technology ( or try: ...!mcsun!phigate!prle!cst!meulenbr)
pegram@kira.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) (12/15/90)
> david@bdt.COM (David Beckemeyer) writes: > - Perhaps most would agree, but I don't agree at all. If you want > - the best, get the Berkeley Microsystems BMS-200 host adapter. > - Nothing else touches it in terms of getting the signals and timing > - right. > - > - ICD may be much more widely available, but that doesn't make it the > - best. ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) replies: > True, but doesn't ICD have the better driver software because of its > caching and verifying capabilities? I have heard that the BMS-200 is > better than ICDs, but I think that ICD's software that is included > which, (from what I understand) doesn't work on other host adapters. I'm interested, (I'd like to run my 296N with 1-1 interleave 8-) but I have several questions: Does the BMS 200 verify at all? How long can the Acsi cable be? How do the various third party caching programs compare to the *very* fast ICD caching driver? Give some sort of measurement please. Is there some program out there truly comparable with ICD's Cleanup or the Supra Utilities, e.g. Beckemeyer's Hard Disk Sentry?? Michtron's Tune Up currently does *not* cut it. Does the BMS 200 support removeable media - especially Syquests 8-)? I do know that Berkley Micro can supply tape drivers (and advice) for many of those cheap tape drives that are out there. Has anyone tried to use the BMS 200 with Spectre GCR (especially with a 296N or 277N on 1-1 interleave 8-), do any of those Mac SCSI add on devices (e.g. a hand scanner) work with it? I doubt this, but maybe something other than a hard disk *does* work, if its driver stays away from the Mac hardware. Finally, does anyone know if ICD fixed up their newer adaptors to be more like the Berkley one? Thanks for any info, Bob Pegram pegram@griffin.uvm.edu or ...!uvm-gen!pegram
boyd@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) (12/15/90)
>ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) replies: > >I'm interested, (I'd like to run my 296N with 1-1 interleave 8-) >but I have several questions: > >Does the BMS 200 verify at all? How long can the Acsi cable be? I have a 296N, and was led to believe that it is rom-hardcoded to a 2-1 interleave that cannot be changed without reburning something. Is this in fact not true? -- Mickey R. Boyd | "God is a comedian playing to an FSU Computer Science | audience too afraid to laugh." Technical Support Group | email: boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu | - Voltaire
ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) (12/16/90)
boyd@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) writes: - I have a 296N, and was led to believe that it is rom-hardcoded to a - 2-1 interleave that cannot be changed without reburning something. - Is this in fact not true? I read something a while ago that mentioned that the version 8 ROMs on the 296N will only give a good transfer rate on the ST at 2-1 interleave, but even then, it's only around 400K/sec. (K/sec is the correct measurement for transfer rate, isn't it?) The version 7 ROMs let you go 1-1 interleave and therefore you supposedly get a much higher transfer rate. If you format at 1-1 with the version 8 ROMs, you get an incredibly poor transfer rate, somewhere around 40K/sec. -- Ed Krimen ............................................... ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico ||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661 / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0
ens@ccu.umanitoba.ca (12/16/90)
In article <1990Dec14.172830.14752@uvm.edu> pegram@kira.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) writes: >Raymond-Protection: enabled > >> david@bdt.COM (David Beckemeyer) writes: > >> - Perhaps most would agree, but I don't agree at all. If you want >> - the best, get the Berkeley Microsystems BMS-200 host adapter. >> - Nothing else touches it in terms of getting the signals and timing >> - right. >> - >> - ICD may be much more widely available, but that doesn't make it the >> - best. We have an Excabyte 8 mm tape drive (2 Gbyte). The BMS-200 we ordered did not work with it (and it took > 3 months to arrive). The ICD board works fine. Werner >
boblu@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM (Robert Luneski) (12/17/90)
In article <1990Dec14.172830.14752@uvm.edu> pegram@kira.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) writes: >I'm interested, (I'd like to run my 296N with 1-1 interleave 8-) >but I have several questions: You do not want to run a Seagate 296N at 1-1 because the disk transfer rate is less than 90 kb/sec at that interleave. Formatting it at 2-1 interleave raises the transfer rate to over 430 kb/sec. It's like using a different disk. I bought one when they first came on the market and formatted it at 1-1 and was shocked to find that my 28 ms disk was sooooo slooooooooow. > >Bob Pegram ____ ____ /\/\/\ Bob Luneski /\/\/\ \/\/\/ Diamond Back II Support Hotlines: boblu@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM \/\/\/ \/\/ Genie: B.LUNESKI1 CompuServe: 76635,2310 \/\/ \/ \/
pegram@kira.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) (12/18/90)
From article <7062@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM>, by boblu@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM (Robert Luneski) quotes me from my article: <1990Dec14.172830.14752@uvm.edu> >>I'm interested, (I'd like to run my 296N with 1-1 interleave 8-) >>but I have several questions: Then replies: > You do not want to run a Seagate 296N at 1-1 because the disk transfer rate > is less than 90 kb/sec at that interleave. Yes I do! At home I have old postings about this. Someone from Berkley Microsystems claimed that Seagate tests all 277Ns and 296Ns with a 1 to 1 interleave, and listen to you (figuratively) slack jawed when you complain that you can't run them that fast. The problem, I am given to believe, is in the host adaptors we use, only the BMS 200 really meets SCSI standards currently, or so I hear (yeah, I know, you could say that the 2XXN series is barely SCSI too 8-). BMS *currently* advertises with a line saying something like: <if you have a 296N or 277N and want to run it with 1 to 1 interleave, call us> > Formatting it at 2-1 interleave raises the transfer rate to over 430 kb/sec. (or lowers it to that if you're running a BMS 200 8-). Deletions.... > ____ ____ > /\/\/\ Bob Luneski /\/\/ I'll dig up the posting I mentioned (thought I had it here too) if anyone's interested. I'll also dig up Berkley's phone and address so you can check with them directly. Check it out - I might be right - and wouldn't all the 2XXN owners be happy then! Well, only unhappy about the DMA port overloading that occurs when the BMS 200 is off, that someone stated in a posting today 8-(. I hope that's been fixed. your 'umble servant, ;-) Bob Pegram pegram@griffin.uvm.edu or ...!uvm-gen!pegram
saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs) (12/18/90)
I have a ST296N running full speed at 1:1 interleave on my ST. The key is
that it's attached to a BMS 200 host adapter. Vance from BMS explained the
problem over the phone a long time back; here's how I remember it:
The ST296N requires that the host adapter acknowledge receipt of a data
package within a time window that's at the very low edge of what the SCSI
standard dictates. Most host adapters at the time didn't respond quite fast
enough to satisfy the drive when it was formatted 1:1. The BMS 200 responds
fast enough. Perhaps other host adapters do by now, I'd have no way of
knowing.
Anyone from Seagate reading this? Care to give more details?
Steve J. saj@chinet.chi.il.usjhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders) (12/23/90)
In <7062@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM>, Robert Luneski writes: >In article <1990Dec14.172830.14752@uvm.edu> pegram@kira.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) writes: >>I'm interested, (I'd like to run my 296N with 1-1 interleave 8-) > > I bought one when they first came on the market and formatted it >at 1-1 and was shocked to find that my 28 ms disk was sooooo slooooooooow. I think there was some discussion here last year about this, and it was found that the latest series of Rom for the 296N had been deliberately slowed down by Seagate so that the drives would work with Macintoshes. I guess Apple ordered a lot of them and the Mac couldn't keep up to the original transfer speed. Someone tryed to get the old Roms from Seagate, but no luck. >>Bob Pegram > ____ ____ >/\/\/\ Bob Luneski /\/\/\ >\/\/\/ Diamond Back II Support Hotlines: boblu@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM \/\/\/ > \/\/ Genie: B.LUNESKI1 CompuServe: 76635,2310 \/\/ > \/ \/ -- John Henders jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca Vancouver,B.C. or jhenders@wimsey.bc.ca or ubc.cs!van-bc!jonh!jhenders
pegram@kira.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) (12/28/90)
I wrote: >>>I'm interested, (I'd like to run my 296N with 1-1 interleave 8-) Bob Luneski replies: >> I bought one when they first came on the market and formatted it >>at 1-1 and was shocked to find that my 28 ms disk was sooooo slooooooooow. now John Henders writes: > I think there was some discussion here last year about this, and it was found > that the latest series of Rom for the 296N had been deliberately slowed down >by Seagate so that the drives would work with Macintoshes. I guess Apple > ordered a lot of them and the Mac couldn't keep up to the original transfer > speed. Someone tryed to get the old Roms from Seagate, but no luck. > [.sigs omitted]... > John Henders jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca > Vancouver,B.C. or jhenders@wimsey.bc.ca > or ubc.cs!van-bc!jonh!jhenders Someone posted here saying that he runs a 296N at 1 to 1 interleave with a BMS host adaptor and gave a short explanation of why there's a problem. I called ICD to see what their story was, but got an irritat{ed _and_ ing} guy who said there's no problem, sometimes it works with 2XXNs and sometimes it (1 to 1 formatting) doesn't. He hardly let me get a word in edgewise and wouldn't even *consider* investigating, let alone making the ICD adaptor work with these drives that barely meet the SCSI specs. Such a pity, the ST end of ICD HAs is superb, long cable with optional write verification (that I use) and a great cacheing driver. We'll get an update soon from Vance Chin, as I am getting BMS' Host Adaptor info sent to me. Bob Pegram pegram@griffin.uvm.edu or ...!uvm-gen!pegram
jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders) (12/29/90)
In <1990Dec27.173803.29845@uvm.edu>, Robert B. Pegram writes: > > >I wrote: > >>>>I'm interested, (I'd like to run my 296N with 1-1 interleave 8-) > >Bob Luneski replies: > >>> I bought one when they first came on the market and formatted it >>>at 1-1 and was shocked to find that my 28 ms disk was sooooo slooooooooow. > >now John Henders writes: > >> I think there was some discussion here last year about this, and it was found >Someone posted here saying that he runs a 296N at 1 to 1 interleave >with a BMS host adaptor and gave a short explanation of why there's a >problem. I called ICD to see what their story was, but got an stuff deleted Good luck with the BMS unit and I hope it works for you, but you will note the person who said he had on working on a BMS didn't say how old it was or what ROM revision. ICD's latest board has the full SCSI spec if that is in fact the problem, and their software is excellant. It's too bad the person on the phone was such a jerk as the people they have doing online support on GEnie are fairly reasonable and in formative. > >Bob Pegram > >pegram@griffin.uvm.edu >or >...!uvm-gen!pegram -- John Henders jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca Vancouver,B.C. or jhenders@wimsey.bc.ca or ubc.cs!van-bc!jonh!jhenders