roberson@aurs01.uucp (Charles "Chip" Roberson) (01/10/91)
Is anyone running pathalias on their ST? I'm looking for a way to handle the UUCP maps on my ST running Rodney's UUCP Modules. If no one is running it on their ST, how about on a PC? Thanks, -chip * Work: 2912 Wake Forest Road, Raleigh, NC 27609 (919) 850-5011 * (...!mcnc!aurgate!roberson) || (roberson%aurgate@mcnc.org) || * (71500.2056@CompuServe.com) || (Chip.Roberson@f112.n151.z1.fidonet.org) #include <disclaimer.h>
steve@thelake.mn.org (Steve Yelvington) (01/12/91)
[roberson@aurs01.uucp writes ... ] > Is anyone running pathalias on their ST? I'm looking for a way to > handle the UUCP maps on my ST running Rodney's UUCP Modules. If > no one is running it on their ST, how about on a PC? Pathalias takes the UUCP map listings (see comp.maps.uucp) and outputs a ``paths'' file that helps a smart mailer, such as smail, transform addresses and otherwise-invalid UUCP paths into valid UUCP paths. It sucks memory like crazy and, for a variety of reasons, it's not worth porting to the ST (or PC). You should be able to find a cooperative UUCP neighbor running Un*x who can run pathalias for you if you really need its output. Even without pathalias' output, you can hand-construct a paths file that will properly route most of your mail -- if you have a mailer that can use it. I didn't think Rodney's UUCP modules could make much use of a paths file. I've only briefly looked at the package, but I was under the impression that it did not include a ``smart'' mailer. If that is the case, then you should simply hand all off-site mail to a cooperative neighbor who can perform address resolution and routing for you. I run smail 2.5, which is a very smart mailer, on my ST. (I apologize for its unavailability; that's beyond my control.) Even though I can use the output of pathalias, I don't. I have a hand-constructed paths file that describes my neighbors and includes default rules for other sites. It does not, for instance, include an entry for atari.UUCP; if I send mail to that site it's simply handed to the smart-host for proper resolution. Incidentally, I would like to appeal for sites that are not registered in the Domain Name System to do so. ``atari.UUCP'' and ``microsoft.UUCP'' are not reliable addresses because most sites, even most BIG sites, simply cannot maintain complete maps of UUCP connectivity. Many Internet sites simply refuse to handle the addresses that are not part of the DNS, including the .UUCP pseudo-domain. DNS registration costs as little as $35 and greatly improves your chances of getting your mail. My paths file looks like this: # # me, myself and I # thelake %s .thelake.mn.org %s .thelake.thelake.mn.org %s # # systems with which I am on speaking terms # tcnet tcnet!%s orbit orbit!%s pnet51 orbit!pnet51!%s stag stag!%s moundst moundst!%s moundst.mn.org moundst!%s .moundst.mn.org moundst!%s umn-cs umn-cs!%s orbit.mn.org orbit!%s .orb.mn.org orbit!%s # # the default mail hub for .mn.org # .mn.org tcnet!%s # # other nearby systems # dynasoft stag!dynasoft!%s syntel tcnet!syntel!%s MAST moundst!MAST!%s mast moundst!MAST!%s class68 moundst!MAST!class68!%s # # default for all Citadel BBS mail # .citadel moundst!%s # # court of last resort -- including Internet addresses # smart-host umn-cs!%s ---- Steve Yelvington / P. O. Box 38 / Marine on St. Croix, MN 55047 USA INTERNET: steve@thelake.mn.org UUCP: plains!umn-cs!thelake!steve
roberson@aurs01.UUCP (Charles "Chip" Roberson) (01/15/91)
In article <A1416107563@thelake.mn.org> steve@thelake.mn.org (Steve Yelvington) writes: >[roberson@aurs01.uucp writes ... ] > >> Is anyone running pathalias on their ST? I'm looking for a way to >> handle the UUCP maps on my ST running Rodney's UUCP Modules. If >> no one is running it on their ST, how about on a PC? > >Pathalias takes the UUCP map listings (see comp.maps.uucp) and outputs a >``paths'' file that helps a smart mailer, such as smail, transform >addresses and otherwise-invalid UUCP paths into valid UUCP paths. It sucks >memory like crazy and, for a variety of reasons, it's not worth porting to >the ST (or PC). I have been notified of at least separate ports and have been sent two versions (one which was sent to comp.sources.atari.st). >You should be able to find a cooperative UUCP neighbor running Un*x who >can run pathalias for you if you really need its output. For many sites this is the simpliest solution. However, not for us. >I didn't think Rodney's UUCP modules could make much use of a paths file. I shall soon find out. >I run smail 2.5, which is a very smart mailer, on my ST. (I apologize for >its unavailability; that's beyond my control.) Smail seems to be the big winner these days. I'd love to see it on the ST. >Incidentally, I would like to appeal for sites that are not registered in >the Domain Name System to do so. ``atari.UUCP'' and ``microsoft.UUCP'' >are not reliable addresses because most sites, even most BIG sites, simply >cannot maintain complete maps of UUCP connectivity. Many Internet sites >simply refuse to handle the addresses that are not part of the DNS, >including the .UUCP pseudo-domain. DNS registration costs as little as $35 >and greatly improves your chances of getting your mail. YES! YES! YES! Please do! If you're industrius you don't even have to have UUNET do it for you and you can save the $35. However, the DNS is the way of the future and it makes life *much* *much* nicer for everybody! Go for it. * Work: 2912 Wake Forest Road, Raleigh, NC 27609 (919) 850-5011 * (...!mcnc!aurgate!roberson) || (roberson%aurgate@mcnc.org) || * (71500.2056@CompuServe.com) || (Chip.Roberson@f112.n151.z1.fidonet.org) #include <disclaimer.h>