johnu@syma.sussex.ac.uk (John E Upham) (01/23/91)
There are a couple of DM1 spells that I'm confused by...
Essentially there are two spells to light ones way around.
1. Ful i.e. a magic torch according to the scroll and
2. Oh ir ra which simply is light according to the scroll.
Are there useful differences between these two ?
Secondly the spell for darkness, i.e. Des ir sar: has anyone found a use
for this. I find I can be equally beaten senseless in the full light of
day or in complete darrkness. I must admit I havn't tried this
comparison with all foes but i havn't got that much time to waste !
I havn't tried invisibility yet; presumably i can sneak past things
without being attacked ?
Thanks for any help.
John Upham, (Chemical Physics Ph.D)
University of Sussex, Brighton, UK.
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Murray Walker (?) commentating on the restart at F1 WC, Spa, 1990rrd@hpfcso.HP.COM (Ray Depew) (01/25/91)
I haven't found a *good* use for the Darkness spell either, and I've found that the Invisibilty spell doesn't do anything for you -- at least it didn't confuse the monsters I tried it with. (Maybe they could smell Stamm, or hear Tiggy giggling?) For mapping out the dungeon, I've found the Magic Footprints and the See Through Walls spells to be especially useful. See Through Walls also works on doors, and can warn you of upcoming monsters. I'd like to know what the different types of armor do for you. Obviously, the mithril items offer good protection with much less weight than old iron armor, but what special protection does Flamebain afford you? And what's the difference between the armor of Lyte, the armor of Darq, and plain old iron armor? And what happens if you use cursed armor or weapons? (Could be that the best answer is the most obvious: they just make the game more fun, but they have no special effect on the outcome. There is SO MUCH crammed into DM that the designers have to have left something out.) Regards Ray DM class of '91
Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com (01/25/91)
John Upham asked about light and darkness spells in Dungeon Master.. The "magical torch" spell given on the scroll in the Hall of Champions is a very easy to perform spell, suitable for beginning Wizards... the light it produces is relatively short lived however... The "light" spell found much further down in the Dungeon is more difficult and costly of magic, but generates light for a far longer time.. Darkness, according to FTL, will allow you to escape detection by "certain" monsters... they wouldn't say which ones. I never used it in DM, and only tried it once in CSB for a particular situation (which didn't work). Invisibility is an *extremely* short lived spell, even at maximum power. Theoretically it will let you slip past monsters, but don't count on it. Also, attacking monsters while you're invisible will result in your getting attacked in return... BobR
rrd@hpfcso.HP.COM (Ray Depew) (01/30/91)
> stop this stuff you are cluttering this area with game junk!!!
Go home, chuckie.
If you haven't tried DM, you're missing out on one of the premier
applications ever developed for the ST.
Besides, comp.sys.atari.st is for everyone. Even people who don't know
how to write.
I'll bet you think Flight Simulator II is just a game, too.
-- Ray
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(Sprinkle this message liberally with smileys before consuming)Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com (01/30/91)
Everybody stop talking about any Atari ST games... Chuck Schul doesn't like it. BobR
grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Graham S Thomas) (01/30/91)
From article <7280@crash.cts.com>, by chuckie@pro-odyssey.cts.com (Chuck Schul): > In-Reply-To: message from johnu@syma.sussex.ac.uk > > stop this stuff you are cluttering this area with game junk!!! Although I work at the same university as John Upham, I don't know him, so there's nothing personal here. Why should 'game junk' be excluded from this newsgroup? As I understand it, the area is for all kinds of ST-related discussion except perhaps for the recently hived-off 'tech' area. I don't play Dungeon Master, so I tend to skip over messages about it. I can appreciate that people who have to pay directly to read news might find messages about topics which don't interest them irritating, but I don't think we should deliberately narrow the range of discussion. if push came to shove i would also defend chucks atari revolution lowercase punctuationless contributions as long as they are balanced by the occasional leavening of chris mauritz cynicism ok folks i think ive said enough for now Cheers, Graham -- Graham Thomas, SPRU, Mantell Building, U of Sussex, Brighton, BN1 9RF, UK INTERNET: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk JANET: grahamt@uk.ac.sussex.syma BITNET: grahamt%sussex.syma@UKACRL UUCP: grahamt%sussex.syma@ukc.uucp Phone: +44 273 678165 Fax: +44 273 685865