wright@hpcc01.HP.COM (Jeff Wright) (01/29/91)
Here is a summary of information I got from a question a few months ago (sorry to take awhile; didn't get the feeling anybody was too interested). Basically the question was "what key sequences does GEM respond to?": "Classic" GEM keys: alt-help screen dump esc re-read disk for active window mouse left + shift select additional files TOS 1.4 GEM keys: mouse left + ctrl move instead of copy ctrl-alt-del warm reboot ctrl-alt-shift-del cold reboot dbl-click+shift on back window run program with cwd == top window (no tos1.4: cwd == back window) click+shift toggle selection Show file keys: space page forward return line forward q exit show --Jeff Wright HP Circuit Technology R&D wright@hpctgrd.hp.com (HPtelnet/415) 857-5351
tony@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Tony Reynolds) (01/31/91)
In article <1540005@hpcc01.HP.COM> wright@hpcc01.HP.COM (Jeff Wright) writes: >Here is a summary of information I got from a question a few months >ago (sorry to take awhile; didn't get the feeling anybody was too >interested). Basically the question was "what key sequences does GEM >respond to?": > >"Classic" GEM keys: > alt-help screen dump > esc re-read disk for active window > mouse left + shift select additional files > I thought everybody knew about the left mouse button: Left mouse hold+ right mouse select things in inactive window (Shift works here, too I think) Left mouse hold+ right mouse dbl clk launch from inactive window And even neater is the "mouse program trick" Double click an executable, then either hold the mouse button down or push the mouse up to the GEM menu bar and let go. The program won't start until you let go of the mouse button or move the mouse from the menu bar. If you've seen this, is there an abort sequence, i.e. OOOPS? I've looked for about a year, ALT-this-that-or-the-other, CNTRL-(same) Space, etc, double click, you name it. Maybe there isn't one, but it sure would be nice > >--Jeff Wright HP Circuit Technology R&D > wright@hpctgrd.hp.com (HPtelnet/415) 857-5351 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay-- so your mail is bouncing when you send to 4dsci1.ocis.olemiss.edu--- So I forwarded my mail from tacky.cs.olemiss.edu, and now you can mail to my old address: tony@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu Thanks!
ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) (01/31/91)
tony@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Tony Reynolds) writes: - I thought everybody knew about the left mouse button: - Left mouse hold+ right mouse select things in inactive window - (Shift works here, too I think) - Left mouse hold+ right mouse dbl clk launch from inactive window As a bit of trivia, this apparently started out as a bug in GEM, but they left it in for the later TOSs. As many know, NeoDesk has this feature and even exapnds on it letting you resize, move, expand, scroll, close windows. Strange how these things evolve. No wonder Atari tends to call them 'features' instead of 'bugs.' ;^) -- Ed Krimen ............................................... ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico ||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661 / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0
ripley@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Hans-Ch. Eckert) (01/31/91)
In article <1991Jan30.174410.190@cs.olemiss.edu> tony@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Tony Reynolds) writes: In article <1540005@hpcc01.HP.COM> wright@hpcc01.HP.COM (Jeff Wright) writes: I thought everybody knew about the left mouse button: Left mouse hold+ right mouse select things in inactive window (Shift works here, too I think) Left mouse hold+ right mouse dbl clk launch from inactive window Difficulty in distinguishing left from right lately, haven't you ? :-) If you've seen this, is there an abort sequence, i.e. OOOPS? I've looked for about a year, ALT-this-that-or-the-other, CNTRL-(same) Space, etc, double click, you name it. Maybe there isn't one, but it sure would be nice As for TOS 1.4, you can abort copy/move-tasks with Undo. Greetings, RIPLEY -- Greetings from RIPLEY | D-1000 Berlin 30 | ripley@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de Hans-Christian Eckert | Regensburger Str. 2 | (ripley@tubopal.UUCP)
warwick@batserver.cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison) (01/31/91)
In <1991Jan30.174410.190@cs.olemiss.edu> tony@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Tony Reynolds) writes: >Double click an executable, then either hold the mouse button down or >push the mouse up to the GEM menu bar and let go. The program won't >start until you let go of the mouse button or move the mouse from >the menu bar. >If you've seen this, is there an abort sequence, i.e. OOOPS? >I've looked for about a year, ALT-this-that-or-the-other, CNTRL-(same) >Space, etc, double click, you name it. Maybe there isn't one, but >it sure would be nice I think you should give up on that one, I think it is just a result of the GEM event handler not returning control to the desktop until the mouse is released, or the mouse is out of the menu bar object. Warwick. -- ________________________________________________________ This .signature intentionally left blank ________________________________________________________
wright@hpcc01.HP.COM (Jeff Wright) (02/01/91)
Here's an expanded list based on e-mail input and some experimentation at home. If you want to test your skill, try to copy a file from a non-foreground window to another window without raising the source window and without using the mouse :-). Legend: alt = Alternate ctl = Control del = Delete [cursor] = any of up, down, left, right arrows "Classic" GEM keys: alt+Help screen dump Return accept default dialog button (the one with the bold outline) Esc re-read disk for active window; ALSO, erase GEM text input field left click+Shift toggle file selection (allows multiple selections) hold mouse right+left click select file from background window "Classic" GEM keyboard equivalents to mouse actions: alt+Insert left mouse button alt+ClrHome right mouse button alt+Shift+[cursor] move pointer by 1 pixel alt+[cursor] move pointer by 8 pixels alt+Insert+[cursor] left drag TOS 1.4 GEM keys: left drag+ctl move instead of copy ctl+alt+del warm reboot ctl+alt+shift+del cold reboot dbl-click left+Shift run program in background window with current directory set to background window directory Show file keys: space page forward return line forward q exit show d half-page foreward (TOS 1.4 only) --Jeff Wright HP Circuit Technology R&D wright@hpctgrd.hp.com (HPtelnet/415) 857-5351
tony@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Tony Reynolds) (02/02/91)
In article <RIPLEY.91Jan30234531@basilisk.cs.tu-berlin.de> ripley@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Hans-Ch. Eckert) writes: >In article <1991Jan30.174410.190@cs.olemiss.edu> tony@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Tony Reynolds) writes: > > In article <1540005@hpcc01.HP.COM> wright@hpcc01.HP.COM (Jeff Wright) writes: > > I thought everybody knew about the left mouse button: > Left mouse hold+ right mouse select things in inactive window > (Shift works here, too I think) > Left mouse hold+ right mouse dbl clk launch from inactive window >Difficulty in distinguishing left from right lately, haven't you ? :-) > >Greetings, > RIPLEY And to think I used to be a drill-team commander! Duhhhhh. Scene at job interview: Interviewer: Hold up your RIGHT hand. [Tony holds up both hands, the left one a little lower than the right.] Interviewer: Goot. Now, hold up your LEFT hand. [Tony holds up both hands again] Interviewer: Something fishy here. Forget it. I don't want to hire you! Tony: Yeah, well, I wouldn't want to work for anyone who makes me tell my right from my left anyway. Why do you think I quit the Air Force? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay-- so your mail is bouncing when you send to 4dsci1.ocis.olemiss.edu--- So I forwarded my mail from tacky.cs.olemiss.edu, and now you can mail to my old address: tony@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu Thanks!
ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) (02/02/91)
wright@hpcc01.HP.COM (Jeff Wright) writes: - "Classic" GEM keys: - alt+Help screen dump How about this one: press ALT-HELP again to stop the screen dump. Ralph Turner mentioned this once in ST Informer. -- Ed Krimen ............................................... ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico ||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661 / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0