hofer@urz.unibas.ch (Remo Hofer) (01/24/91)
Is there a PD diskformater around, which produces real MSDOS disk, except that it puts in a serial number? I mean it should write a MSDOS bootsector (except serial number), a compatible media byte, the FAT and the root directory should have the same length and it should write the same number of FATs as on MSDOS disks. Is there such a beast around? Remo -- RFC822: <hofer@urz.unibas.ch> X.400: S=hofer;OU=urz;O=unibas;P=SWITCH;A=ARCOM;C=CH
hofer@urz.unibas.ch (Remo Hofer) (01/25/91)
In article <1991Jan24.101341.1327@urz.unibas.ch>, hofer@urz.unibas.ch (Remo Hofer) writes: > Is there a PD diskformater around, which produces real MSDOS disk, except > that it puts in a serial number? I mean it should write a MSDOS bootsector > (except serial number), a compatible media byte, the FAT and the root > directory should have the same length and it should write the same number of > FATs as on MSDOS disks. Is there such a beast around? I've got some answers, but none of them did answer my question. So I have to clarify myself. I know that there are tons of utilities, that write MSDOS kompatible bootsectors. One of them is the formater of TOS 1.4. But I look for a formater that also writes all the other stuff ecaxtly like MSDOS does in the standard way. So that after formating nobody can see, if it was formated on a MSDOS PC (say MSDOS 3.2) or on the ST. The use would be, that no utility that claims to read/write MSDOS disk would deny to handle such a disk. The utility could be on any machine (Mac, SUN,...). There are such utilitie, that only partaly handle the MSDOS bootsector parameters. One is GEMDOS another is MSDOS itself. Remo -- RFC822: <hofer@urz.unibas.ch> X.400: S=hofer;OU=urz;O=unibas;P=SWITCH;A=ARCOM;C=CH
jerry@TALOS.UUCP (Jerry Gitomer) (01/26/91)
hofer@urz.unibas.ch (Remo Hofer) writes: :In article <1991Jan24.101341.1327@urz.unibas.ch>, :hofer@urz.unibas.ch (Remo Hofer) writes: :: Is there a PD diskformater around, which produces real MSDOS disk, except :: that it puts in a serial number? I mean it should write a MSDOS bootsector :: (except serial number), a compatible media byte, the FAT and the root :: directory should have the same length and it should write the same number of :: FATs as on MSDOS disks. Is there such a beast around? :I've got some answers, but none of them did answer my question. So I have to :clarify myself. I know that there are tons of utilities, that write MSDOS :kompatible bootsectors. One of them is the formater of TOS 1.4. But I look for :a formater that also writes all the other stuff ecaxtly like MSDOS does in the :standard way. So that after formating nobody can see, if it was formated on a :MSDOS PC (say MSDOS 3.2) or on the ST. The use would be, that no utility that :claims to read/write MSDOS disk would deny to handle such a disk. The utility :could be on any machine (Mac, SUN,...). There are such utilitie, that only :partaly handle the MSDOS bootsector parameters. One is GEMDOS another is MSDOS :itself. I use PC-Ditto I (the 8088 emulator in software version) on the ST and format using PC-DOS 3.3. If you must have PC/MS-DOS formatting why not go to the real thing? -- Jerry Gitomer at National Political Resources Inc, Alexandria, VA USA I am apolitical, have no resources, and speak only for myself. Ma Bell (703)683-9090 (UUCP: ...{uupsi,vrdxhq}!pbs!npri6!jerry
djw@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (David Williams) (01/29/91)
> ............................................ormater of TOS 1.4. But I look for > a formater that also writes all the other stuff ecaxtly like MSDOS does in the > standard way. So that after formating nobody can see, if it was formated on a > MSDOS PC (say MSDOS 3.2) or on the ST. The use would be, that no utility that > claims to read/write MSDOS disk would deny to handle such a disk. The utility > could be on any machine (Mac, SUN,...). There are such utilitie, that only > partaly handle the MSDOS bootsector parameters. One is GEMDOS another is MSDOS > itself. This does not answer your question directly, but it may give you some ideas. I have much the same problem as you, I need to make 3.5inch MS-DOS disks that can be read on Atari, HP Un*x, MS-DOS, and maybe others. The disks get created (typically) at the Un*x site. What I did was format a disk on MS-DOS, then made an image copy of the disk on Unix. That is, I copied all the sectors from the disk into a standard Un*x file (for the Un*x heads: dd if=/dev/rfd/my_disk of=dos_image bs=512). Now, when I want to make a dos disk on Un*x, I hard format the disk (lay the tracks down), then image copy the dos image back to the new floppy media (dd if=dos_image of=/dev/rfd/my_disk bs=512). It's a bit slow, but works great. As it is possible to read, and write the raw disk on the Atari, I see no reason that this would not work on the Atari. Just ideas.. djw@hpldsla.hp.com
ljdickey@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Lee Dickey) (02/05/91)
In article <1991Jan24.101341.1327@urz.unibas.ch> hofer@urz.unibas.ch (Remo Hofer) writes: >Is there a PD diskformater around, which produces real MSDOS disk, except >that it puts in a serial number? I mean it should write a MSDOS bootsector >(except serial number), a compatible media byte, the FAT and the root >directory should have the same length and it should write the same number of >FATs as on MSDOS disks. Is there such a beast around? I looked recently at the code for "IBMFMT" by Moshe Braner. If I understand what is being asked, I think that this is exactly what Moshe has done. Both the code and the program have been posted, so I think you should find them both at "panarthea" and "terminator". The site "panarthea" is the one from which all our binaries and sources are posted to the net, and it is a mail server. The site "terminator" is now becoming known as "atari.archive.umich.edu", and it is both a mail and an ftp server. Another program of the same nature is "ps2form". I think that it is about the same, putting in the random serial number and writing a binary image of a DOS 3.3 boot sector. There is some subtlety about just what is done first that makes this different from "ibmfmt", but the effect is the same. Both of these program are free.