micci@nvuxg.UUCP (D M Dennee) (10/17/85)
Dan Ross asks:
> I know this is going to sound stupid, but WHO IS KATE BUSH?
For the past few months that I've been reading net.music, I
have been asking myself the same question. I'd always been
pretty "up" on the music scene, and never heard of Kate Bush...
even on the NYC stations (WNEW, WAPP, WHTZ, WPLJ, etc.)
Well, I finally got MTV installed in my new apartment, after
a lapse of 4 months. One of the first videos I saw was the
"Americanized" version of the "Running Up That Hill" video.
At last...KATE BUSH! I still don't know much about her, except
the music is a little different, but she didn't seem to strike
me as anymore than any other "new" group/artist on MTV.
The song has grown on me a bit, though...
Micci Dennee
Bell Communications Research
Red Bank, NJ
"Mother, does it have to be
so high?"
-Pink Floyd [The Wall]rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (10/18/85)
> Dan Ross asks: > > I know this is going to sound stupid, but WHO IS KATE BUSH? > > For the past few months that I've been reading net.music, I > have been asking myself the same question. I'd always been > pretty "up" on the music scene, and never heard of Kate Bush... > even on the NYC stations (WNEW, WAPP, WHTZ, WPLJ, etc.) Listening to mainstream radio and being "pretty up on the music scene" are contradictions in terms. (WHTZ? Z-100? A source of musical knowledge?) > Well, I finally got MTV installed in my new apartment, after > a lapse of 4 months. One of the first videos I saw was the > "Americanized" version of the "Running Up That Hill" video. > At last...KATE BUSH! I still don't know much about her, except > the music is a little different, but she didn't seem to strike > me as anymore than any other "new" group/artist on MTV. "Running Up That Hill" 'different'? May I humbly suggest listening to some serious college radio (like WRSU and WPRB locally) to get really "up" on the music scene. There's a whole world out there where Kate Bush is just typical of a large output of creative music rather than "a little different". (MTV is probably even less of a source of musical knowledge, unless you watch the Cutting Edge on Sunday nights. Try U68 instead. There you'll get to see the REAL Kate Bush video.) -- Popular consensus says that reality is based on popular consensus. Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr
micci@nvuxg.UUCP (D M Dennee) (10/18/85)
>> ...I'd always been pretty "up" on the music scene, and never >> heard of Kate Bush...even on the NYC stations (WNEW, WAPP, >> WHTZ, WPLJ, etc.) > Listening to mainstream radio and beeing "pretty up on the music > scene" are contradictions in terms. (WHTZ? Z-100? A source of > musical knowledge? Sorry Rich, WHTZ and Z-100 are one and the same. I know Z-100 is top 40...I don't listen often, but WNEW plays more of a variation of the "music scene". O.K, so maybe I'm not as "up" on music as I might have thought, I don't listen to the college stations. But for the "average" person out there who listens to the NYC stations, they've never heard of Kate Bush. >> finally got MTV...At last...KATE BUSH! I still don't know much >> about her, except the music is a little different. > MTV is probably even less of a source of musical knowledge, unless > you watch the Cutting Edge on Sunday nights. Try U68 instead. > There you'll get to see the REAL Kate Bush video. MTV has shown videos from many groups I've never heard of/seen before (embedded between the top hits)...and I *HAVE* watched U68. It's good, and I *DID* see the real Kate Bush video (much better than the other version). I don't, however, prefer one station to the other...it depends on what I'm looking for. I wasn't looking for a flame when I wrote the first article, just stating some opinions. But thanks, Rich, you've been the first to flame me since I've been on the net! (I think it was a flame... even if only a "little" one. :-) ) Micci Dennee Bell Communications Research Red Bank, NJ
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (10/19/85)
>>> ...I'd always been pretty "up" on the music scene, and never >>> heard of Kate Bush...even on the NYC stations (WNEW, WAPP, >>> WHTZ, WPLJ, etc.) >> Listening to mainstream radio and beeing "pretty up on the music >> scene" are contradictions in terms. (WHTZ? Z-100? A source of >> musical knowledge? > Sorry Rich, WHTZ and Z-100 are one and the same. Why do you think I put both names in the same parenthetical statement! > I know Z-100 is > top 40...I don't listen often, but WNEW plays more of a variation > of the "music scene". WNEW is to progressive music what oil is to vinegar: they don't mix. WNEW was ONCE a great radio station, but their motif since WPLJ died as an AOR station is to pick up the slack by playing endless boring metal music ad cesium and "oldies" for people living in the past. > O.K, so maybe I'm not as "up" on music as > I might have thought, I don't listen to the college stations. My point is don't claim to be so if you're not. > But for the "average" person out there who listens to the NYC > stations, they've never heard of Kate Bush. Whose fault is that? In the 1960's (remember them?), all sorts of music got airplay on all sorts of radio stations. There was no "black music", "metal music", "new wave", etc. There was a wide variety of music played on even mainstream radio stations. Now you've got these stupid pigeonholes for radio stations that play only what is "allowed" by market pressures and playlists. Why isn't Kate Bush on these playlists? Why aren't a lot of great artists making modern creative music on the playlists? These geeks are SO SURE no one will like them? >>> finally got MTV...At last...KATE BUSH! I still don't know much >>> about her, except the music is a little different. >> MTV is probably even less of a source of musical knowledge, unless >> you watch the Cutting Edge on Sunday nights. Try U68 instead. >> There you'll get to see the REAL Kate Bush video. > MTV has shown videos from many groups I've never heard of/seen before > (embedded between the top hits)...and I *HAVE* watched U68. It's > good, and I *DID* see the real Kate Bush video (much better than > the other version). I don't, however, prefer one station to the > other...it depends on what I'm looking for. You're right. If you're looking for extremely boring self-indulgent "VJ"s playing a strict playlist of mainstream music in heavy rotation, then MTV is for you. If you're looking for something better, U68 offers it to a degree. (As does USA Night Flight, at least it did while I was still watching it.) > I wasn't looking for a flame when I wrote the first article, just > stating some opinions. But thanks, Rich, you've been the first > to flame me since I've been on the net! (I think it was a flame... > even if only a "little" one. :-) ) No, it wasn't a flame. (It's amazing how people "expect" certain submissions to be flames based on presuppositions about certain things!) It was intended as information. I hope it served that purpose, as I hope this one does. -- "Wait a minute. '*WE*' decided??? *MY* best interests????" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr
nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) (10/19/85)
> From: micci@nvuxg.UUCP (D M Dennee) > I still don't know much about her, except the music is a little > different, but she didn't seem to strike me as anymore than any other > "new" group/artist on MTV. > The song has grown on me a bit, though... Given that her bizarre stuff *is* truly bizarre, you wouldn't expect Empty-V to show any of that would you? Her songs range in style nearly as much as music does, and "Running Up That Hill" is her one and only new wave dance song (in fact, probably her only dance song, unless you consider waltzes to still be dance songs....). That and a couple of other pop songs on the album exist to pay for the rest of the album which is quite bizarre. If MTV would play "Jig of Life" or "Waking The Witch", then you'd see.... (I'm told MTV perhaps showed "Suspended In Gaffa" and "Sat In Your Lap" once or twice a couple years back. Those would have been good.) "I want it all!" Doug Alan nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (or ARPA)
lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (palena) (10/22/85)
In article <175@nvuxg.UUCP> micci@nvuxg.UUCP writes: > >Dan Ross asks: >> I know this is going to sound stupid, but WHO IS KATE BUSH? > >For the past few months that I've been reading net.music, I >have been asking myself the same question. I'd always been >pretty "up" on the music scene, and never heard of Kate Bush... But fellows,this is precisely the allure of Kate Bush,ie-she seems to be so great but nobody's ever heard of her!! But if you're lucky that wonder-of-wonders at MIT might hum a bar or two of her latest hit for you in his next article. And this is precisely why I call this follow-up another timely contribution to net.KateBush, Larry Palena lp102911@sjuvax