[comp.sys.atari.st] A couple of questions

pc@ukc.ac.uk (R.P.A.Collinson) (12/06/86)

KJBSF@slacvm.bitnet writes:
>I've been getting some message from Mark Williams C about an 'outdated
>ranlib' whenever I try to use the AES or VDI libraries when compiling
>a program.  What does this mean?  Do I need to send my disks back to MW to
>get something fixed?
>
I got this on libc.a when I copied it from the floppy onto a hard disc.
I did
	<ensure the date is correct>
	ar x libc.a ranlib.sym
	ar r libc.a ranlib.sym
	(I went to do an rm ranlib.sym and discovered hat the file had
	 already gone)
	
and after a lot of disc whirring the problem went away. Basically, I altered
the time on the symbol table file to be after that on the ar file.

Would have been nice to have had a ranlib out of MW C tho...

leo@sunybcs.UUCP (Leo Wilson) (12/10/86)

I had this problem, too, and this is what I did to correct it:

	1: Set the system time to something BEFORE the ST epoch.
	2: Touch all the lib files
	3: reset the system time to the epoch or the real thing

This allows you to forget to set the time and still be able to work.
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news@mrsvr.UUCP (News Manager) (02/01/90)

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1) I recently found on a local BBS a program that supposedly formats Atari
disks to 1 Meg (on a DS drive).  Since I personally have never succeeded in
formatting past 810K I was wondering if this program could really work or if
it could really screw up a disk.

2) Has anyone been contacted by LFP about a refund to their now defunct
subscription to ST-LOG?  Or is it time for a long distance call.


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boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) (02/02/90)

In article <1981@mrsvr.UUCP>, news@mrsvr.UUCP (News Manager) writes:
>
>1) I recently found on a local BBS a program that supposedly formats Atari
>disks to 1 Meg (on a DS drive).  Since I personally have never succeeded in
>formatting past 810K I was wondering if this program could really work or if
>it could really screw up a disk.
>
This may be possible with some really packed disk formats, but the media 
would be highly unreliable.  I have seen formatters go out to 83 tracks,
11 sectors reliable ON PARTICULAR DRIVES.  You just have to experiment
and see how much stuff you can cram on a disk reliably.  I have found
that 82 tracks, 10 sectors, twisted works fine for me and most of the
other drives I encounter, but I still run into one occasionally that will
not read a disk.  It seems to be the track number that gives drives 
problems, anything above 80 is not guarenteed.  I use 80 tracks, 10 sectors
twisted for anything I would cry over if I lost, just to be safe.


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g4r@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Drew Burnett) (03/19/90)

  1)   What is a blitter chip?  What does it do?

  2) Can anyone recommend a sound digitizer for the 1040st?
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elvis@watnxt2.ucr.edu (The King) (03/06/91)

Hi,
  Now that I finally own a hard drive, I have had a couple of problems come up.
The first is that I forget where it was that I put files, if I haven't used them
for a while.  Does anyone know of a file finder, preferably in the form of a DA?
The second problem has to do with DAs, in that I find myself with too many of
them, and I end up with not enough of my 1040's 1 meg to run certain things.
Now, I know I could take the sensible approach and simply reboot without all
the DAs, but where's the fun in that?  Therefore, I am seeking ways of
increasing how much memory I have (well, actually how much the computer has,
but be that as it may).  I might get an upgrade for my ST, but I am also 
thinking about getting a STe instead, since simms are so much easier to use.
I know some software will not run on the STe, but I was wondering if anyone
could give me more info on this, since I would hate to get the extra memory
and then find that a lot of PD software, games, don't run on it (I am assuming
that those are the kind of things that might have trouble?)  Also, has anyone
tried hooking up PC-ditto2 (the hardware version) to an STe?  Or does the
software version wor 
Any help/info would be greatly appreciated.

Andrew (elvis@watnxt2.ucr.edu or cierdain@ucrmath.ucr.edu)

cierdain@ucrmath.ucr.edu (michael barnes) (03/06/91)

My apologies if this gets posted twice.  I accidentaly posted it from my own
account first, but I've never seen anything actually reach the net from that
machine, so here I go again...
  
  Now that I finally own a hard drive, I have had a couple of problems come up.
The first is that I forget where it was that I put files, if I haven't used them
for a while.  Does anyone know of a file finder, preferably in the form of a DA?
The second problem has to do with DAs, in that I find myself with too many of
them, and I end up with not enough of my 1040's 1 meg to run certain things.
Now, I know I could take the sensible approach and simply reboot without all
the DAs, but where's the fun in that?  Therefore, I am seeking ways of
increasing how much memory I have (well, actually how much the computer has,
but be that as it may).  I might get an upgrade for my ST, but I am also 
thinking about getting a STe instead, since simms are so much easier to use.
I know some software will not run on the STe, but I was wondering if anyone
could give me more info on this, since I would hate to get the extra memory
and then find that a lot of PD software, games, don't run on it (I am assuming
that those are the kind of things that might have trouble?)  Also, has anyone
tried hooking up PC-ditto2 (the hardware version) to an STe?  Or does the
software version work? 

Any help/info would be greatly appreciated.

Andrew (elvis@watnxt2.ucr.edu (my account) or 
	cierdain@ucrmath.ucr.edu (my friends account which actually works))

bcc@Eyring.COM (Brian Cooper) (03/07/91)

cierdain@ucrmath.ucr.edu (michael barnes) writes:

>Does anyone know of a file finder, preferably in the form of a DA?

I have a file finder around here somewhere that would meet your description.
If you like, I can dust it off.  I don't use it because I find it easier to
use the find option of the Little Green Selector.  (Dang!  Now I've got to
go register the thing!)  You would probably find both available at
atari.archive.umich.edu.