saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs) (03/01/91)
I'm toying with the possibility of setting up a product support bbs (no, the
product isn't out yet). Being an eternal optimist (I still use Atari stuff,
don't I?), I'm curious about how I'd go to multiple lines if that was necessary.
It seems like a question that might be asked fairly often. So given ST rather
than Mega E or TT hardware, is there a good way to set up a multi-line BBS?
The best IBM PC multi-lines seem to use multiple networked machines. Is a
suitable networking product available in the US? Is there a good way to get
multiple serial ports on an ST?
Steve saj@chinet.chi.il.usekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) (03/02/91)
saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs) writes: - I'm toying with the possibility of setting up a product support bbs - (no, the product isn't out yet). Being an eternal optimist (I still - use Atari stuff, don't I?), I'm curious about how I'd go to multiple - lines if that was necessary. It seems like a question that might be - asked fairly often. So given ST rather than Mega E or TT hardware, is - there a good way to set up a multi-line BBS? The best IBM PC - multi-lines seem to use multiple networked machines. Is a suitable - networking product available in the US? Is there a good way to get - multiple serial ports on an ST? Atari uses DC-Port on a Mega4 for their 5-line BBS, running Michtron BBS v3.0. DC-Port, from what I hear, plugs into the cartridge port of any ST and gives you either 2 or 4 extra serial ports. The only BBS program that I know of that supports it is Michtron BBS v3.0. Niteline BBS is supposed to be able to run multiple lines, but I don't know what hardware it uses. STalker, the fantastic terminal program, also supports DC-Port. You can have 3 STalker terminals installed, with each calling a different place using DC-Port. DC-Port is a Double Click product. Your best bet is to contact them. -- Ed Krimen ............................................... ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico ||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661 / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0
fortinp@bwdls56.bnr.ca (Pierre Fortin) (03/04/91)
In article <1991Mar02.073348.20023@ecst.csuchico.edu>, ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) writes: > saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs) writes: > > - I'm toying with the possibility of setting up a product support bbs > - (no, the product isn't out yet). Being an eternal optimist (I still > - use Atari stuff, don't I?), I'm curious about how I'd go to multiple > - lines if that was necessary. It seems like a question that might be > - asked fairly often. So given ST rather than Mega E or TT hardware, is > - there a good way to set up a multi-line BBS? The best IBM PC > - multi-lines seem to use multiple networked machines. Is a suitable > - networking product available in the US? Is there a good way to get > - multiple serial ports on an ST? > > Atari uses DC-Port on a Mega4 for their 5-line BBS, running Michtron > BBS v3.0. DC-Port, from what I hear, plugs into the cartridge port > of any ST and gives you either 2 or 4 extra serial ports. The only > BBS program that I know of that supports it is Michtron BBS v3.0. The Ottawa, Canada, National Capital Atari Users' Group (NCAUG) also runs a multi-line (3) BBS using DC-port (donated to the club by Eric Rosenquist; Thanks Eric) to 3 2400 modems. This BBS also runs Michtron V3.0 on a 520/1040. > Niteline BBS is supposed to be able to run multiple lines, but I > don't know what hardware it uses. STalker, the fantastic terminal I think you meant NiteLite which was previously used on the NCAUG BBS. Thank goodness that beast is gone! It used to do all sorts of nasties and crash a lot. I'm not 100% certain, but I think it used its own hardware. > program, also supports DC-Port. You can have 3 STalker terminals > installed, with each calling a different place using DC-Port. > DC-Port is a Double Click product. Your best bet is to contact them. > > -- > Ed Krimen ............................................... Cheers, Pierre Cheers, Pierre Fortin fortinp@bnr.ca (613)763-2598
gl8f@astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) (03/04/91)
In article <1991Mar3.221136.5828@bwdls61.bnr.ca> fortinp@bwdls56.bnr.ca (Pierre Fortin) writes: >I think you meant NiteLite which was previously used on the NCAUG BBS. Thank >goodness that beast is gone! It used to do all sorts of nasties and crash a >lot. I'm not 100% certain, but I think it used its own hardware. Ah, memories. The nightlite hardware was a generic box that had a bunch of RS232 lines and a cpu and a little program. You could then convince it to multiplex many slow lines into one fast one, and plug that into your ST. I thought about doing a OS9 driver for it, but getting it to do anything like interrupt-driven I/O must be nasty. And the software in the box had to be really robust or it would have big problems. The only BBS I used that had it was stable, but it was the owner's machine. DC's solution sounds much more robust and easy to deal with.
pegram@kira.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) (03/07/91)
From article <1991Mar01.151325.5556@chinet.chi.il.us>, by saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs): > I'm toying with the possibility of setting up a product support bbs (no, the > product isn't out yet). Being an eternal optimist (I still use Atari stuff, > don't I?), I'm curious about how I'd go to multiple lines if that was necessary. > It seems like a question that might be asked fairly often. So given ST rather > than Mega E or TT hardware, is there a good way to set up a multi-line BBS? > The best IBM PC multi-lines seem to use multiple networked machines. Is a > suitable networking product available in the US? Is there a good way to get > multiple serial ports on an ST? > Steve saj@chinet.chi.il.us Talk to Double Click about their DC port, it gives you at least 2 more serial lines from a cartridge. My guess is that they run their BBS with it. About the best setup for this job, I really wouldn't know, but it isn't easy to network STs - at least in the U.S. 8-( Good luck - please report your solution. Bob Pegram pegram@griffin.uvm.edu or ...!uvm-gen!pegram
arktik@nro.cs.athabascau.ca (Ryan Daum) (03/09/91)
pegram@kira.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) writes: > From article <1991Mar01.151325.5556@chinet.chi.il.us>, by saj@chinet.chi.il.u > > I'm toying with the possibility of setting up a product support bbs (no, th > > product isn't out yet). Being an eternal optimist (I still use Atari stuff > > don't I?), I'm curious about how I'd go to multiple lines if that was neces > > It seems like a question that might be asked fairly often. So given ST rat > > than Mega E or TT hardware, is there a good way to set up a multi-line BBS? > > The best IBM PC multi-lines seem to use multiple networked machines. Is a > > suitable networking product available in the US? Is there a good way to ge > > multiple serial ports on an ST? > > Steve saj@chinet.chi.il.us > > Talk to Double Click about their DC port, it gives you at least 2 more > serial lines from a cartridge. My guess is that they run their BBS > with it. About the best setup for this job, I really wouldn't know, > but it isn't easy to network STs - at least in the U.S. 8-( > > Good luck - please report your solution. > > Bob Pegram > > pegram@griffin.uvm.edu > or > ...!uvm-gen!pegram Another solution is Michtron 3.0 Multiuser. I don't know if it's still for sale, but this person should be able to get a copy of it second hand. I allows 4 lines (5 lines including the console) using a special device to handle more serial ports. The software is really nice and can be custom programmed totally. It's quite fast and with a accelerator board would just *sparkle*. __________________________________________________ //\\...Liberty...Equality...Fraternity...Atarity...\ ||| All opinions, \__/_______________________________________________/ / | \ expressed [=FoReM-Net:The=Follower===@=Node=171=The Outland==] herein are always [=UUCP:ersys!arktik@nro.cs.athabascau.ca===========] true, as I am [=Ryan Daum========================================] Divinity.
Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz (03/09/91)
Distribution:world Well there is Lantech or something like that for the ST, I think this is a USA made product, 10Megs bits, don't have all the data handy, and there is a BBS package called Nite Lite, this can have upto 16 lines from what I know, uses external mutiplexers with there own processers, (65C02) from what I can remember, this is driven from the RS 232 port, this I believe comes from the USA as well ... -- Roger W. Sheppard 85 Donovan Rd, Kapiti New Zealand...
arktik@nro.cs.athabascau.ca (Ryan Daum) (03/12/91)
Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes: > Distribution:world > > Well there is Lantech or something like that for the ST, I think this is a US > made product, 10Megs bits, don't have all the data handy, > and there is a BBS package called Nite Lite, this can have upto 16 lines > from what I know, uses external mutiplexers with there own processers, > (65C02) from what I can remember, this is driven from the RS 232 port, this > I believe comes from the USA as well ... > -- > Roger W. Sheppard 85 Donovan Rd, Kapiti New Zealand... Unfortunately Nite Lite is the biggest joke I've seen in my life. Try using it sometime, it's torture from both the sysop and the users end. Michtron handles 4 lines, multiuser chat, etc. __________________________________________________ //\\...Liberty...Equality...Fraternity...Atarity...\ ||| All opinions, \__/_______________________________________________/ / | \ expressed [=FoReM-Net:The=Follower===@=Node=171=The Outland==] herein are always [=UUCP:ersys!arktik@nro.cs.athabascau.ca===========] true, as I am [=Ryan Daum========================================] Divinity.
Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz (03/15/91)
Distribution:world In article <VBioy1w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> ersys!arktik@nro.cs.athabascau.ca (Ryan Daum) writes: > Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes: > > > Distribution:world > > > > Well there is Lantech or something like that for the ST, I think this is a US > > made product, 10Megs bits, don't have all the data handy, > > and there is a BBS package called Nite Lite, this can have upto 16 lines > > from what I know, uses external mutiplexers with there own processers, > > (65C02) from what I can remember, this is driven from the RS 232 port, this > > I believe comes from the USA as well ... > > -- > > Roger W. Sheppard 85 Donovan Rd, Kapiti New Zealand... > > > Unfortunately Nite Lite is the biggest joke I've seen in my life. Try > using it sometime, it's torture from both the sysop and the users end. > > Michtron handles 4 lines, multiuser chat, etc. > > __________________________________________________ > //\\...Liberty...Equality...Fraternity...Atarity...\ ||| All opinions, > \__/_______________________________________________/ / | \ expressed > [=FoReM-Net:The=Follower===@=Node=171=The Outland==] herein are always > [=UUCP:ersys!arktik@nro.cs.athabascau.ca===========] true, as I am > [=Ryan Daum========================================] Divinity. Sorry for this but I did quote the Wrong BBS software, it should have been STar-Net, and not Nite lite, my brain was not into gear. By the way, what ever happend to FoRem Elite ???, this was suposted to have multi line support... -- Roger W. Sheppard 85 Donovan Rd, Kapiti New Zealand...
ggranger@nro.cs.athabascau.ca (Greg Granger) (03/17/91)
Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes: > Distribution:world > > In article <VBioy1w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> ersys!arktik@nro.cs.athabascau. > > Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes: > > > > > Distribution:world > > > > > > Well there is Lantech or something like that for the ST, I think this is > > > made product, 10Megs bits, don't have all the data handy, > > > and there is a BBS package called Nite Lite, this can have upto 16 lines > > > from what I know, uses external mutiplexers with there own processers, > > > (65C02) from what I can remember, this is driven from the RS 232 port, th > > > I believe comes from the USA as well ... > > > -- > > > Roger W. Sheppard 85 Donovan Rd, Kapiti New Zealand... > > > > > > Unfortunately Nite Lite is the biggest joke I've seen in my life. Try > > using it sometime, it's torture from both the sysop and the users end. > > > > Michtron handles 4 lines, multiuser chat, etc. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > //\\...Liberty...Equality...Fraternity...Atarity...\ ||| All opinions, > > \__/_______________________________________________/ / | \ expressed > > [=FoReM-Net:The=Follower===@=Node=171=The Outland==] herein are always > > [=UUCP:ersys!arktik@nro.cs.athabascau.ca===========] true, as I am > > [=Ryan Daum========================================] Divinity. > > Sorry for this but I did quote the Wrong BBS software, it should have been > STar-Net, and not Nite lite, my brain was not into gear. > > By the way, what ever happend to FoRem Elite ???, this was suposted to > have multi line support... > > -- > Roger W. Sheppard 85 Donovan Rd, Kapiti New Zealand... FoReM Elite was only available for the PC systems. Matt Singer never did make a ST version of FoReM Elite. A guy called Steve Rider has the rights to FoReM, and is making frequent updates to it. You can get ahold of him at Fnet node 224. Sorry, I don't know the phone no., but his node is called "Full Moon". Greg Granger = INet: ersys!ggranger@nro.cs.athabascau.ca = = Fnet: Greg Granger (Node 532) Dark Knight (Node 595)= = Post: 5906-188 Street Edmonton, AB Canada T6M-2A9 = = Tele: +1 403 481-0803 OR +1 403 481-5110 = /sa
arktik@nro.cs.athabascau.ca (Ryan Daum) (03/18/91)
Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes: > Sorry for this but I did quote the Wrong BBS software, it should have been > STar-Net, and not Nite lite, my brain was not into gear. > > By the way, what ever happend to FoRem Elite ???, this was suposted to > have multi line support... > > -- > Roger W. Sheppard 85 Donovan Rd, Kapiti New Zealand... No, I think you were right in saying Nite lite, STarNet is a single user Public Domain system. Forem Elite? I don't know, but I think the Miller brothers (makers of Turbo BBS) are going to get around to adding multiline sooner or later. __________________________________________________ //\\...Liberty...Equality...Fraternity...Atarity...\ ||| All opinions, \__/_______________________________________________/ / | \ expressed [=FoReM-Net:The=Follower===@=Node=171=The Outland==] herein are always [=UUCP:ersys!arktik@nro.cs.athabascau.ca===========] true, as I am [=Ryan Daum========================================] Divinity.