[comp.sys.atari.st] Can't connect a 1040st to a TV Set :

dddean@bluemoon.uucp (David D. Dean) (03/21/91)

Hello:

I was currently in the market to buy an Atari 1040st, but had found out 
that the sytem I was going to buy (at a GREAT price) did not include a 
monitor!!  "No Problem!"  I thought.  "I'll just hook it up to my TV Set 
like I have with my 8-bit, and like my friend did with his 520!!"

WRONG ANSWER.. Thanks For Playing!!

It turns out that they (The Atari Company) did not include an RF modulator 
for their 1040st line.  DARN!!!    That really ticks!

Anyway... if ANYONE has come up with a solution to this little problem, 
PLEASE reply to me!!! 

Thanks For any help!!


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rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins) (03/26/91)

In article <XD26y2w163w@bluemoon.uucp>, dddean@bluemoon.uucp (David D. Dean) writes:
> It turns out that they (The Atari Company) did not include an RF modulator 
> for their 1040st line.  DARN!!!    That really ticks!

On a related note, is it possible to add a RF modulator to an older ST? 
I've noticed that there is space on the motherboard for it, but nothing is 
there.

thanks.....

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goo@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Michael Goo) (03/28/91)

>in comp.sys.atari.st/rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
>writes:
>
>In article <XD26y2w163w@bluemoon.uucp>, dddean@bluemoon.uucp (David D. Dean) writes:
>> It turns out that they (The Atari Company) did not include an RF modulator 
>> for their 1040st line.  DARN!!!    That really ticks!
>
>On a related note, is it possible to add a RF modulator to an older ST? 
>I've noticed that there is space on the motherboard for it, but nothing is 
>there.
>

The Atari monitor connector has a line for composite video.  This is essentially
regular NTSC signal without being modulated to a TV frequency.  You can buy or
build a cable that will go from the monitor port to a composite connector
(usually a regular RCA jack)  Some TV/monitors can use a composite signal 
directly.  For TVs that can't, a composite -> channel 3/4 modulator should be
obtainable at the local Radio Shack.

Hope this helps.

rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins) (04/02/91)

In article <40250015@hpindda.cup.hp.com>, goo@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Michael Goo) writes:
>>in comp.sys.atari.st/rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
>>writes:
>>In article <XD26y2w163w@bluemoon.uucp>, dddean@bluemoon.uucp (David D. Dean) writes:
>>> It turns out that they (The Atari Company) did not include an RF modulator 
>>> for their 1040st line.  DARN!!!    That really ticks!
>>
>>On a related note, is it possible to add a RF modulator to an older ST? 
>>I've noticed that there is space on the motherboard for it, but nothing is 
>>there.
> The Atari monitor connector has a line for composite video.  This is essentially
> regular NTSC signal without being modulated to a TV frequency.  You can buy or
> build a cable that will go from the monitor port to a composite connector

So if I splice into the composite line of the monitor, I should be able to 
get composite output? It sounds a little too easy. Why would anyone buy 
that Video Key thing then?

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todd@NISC.SRI.COM (Todd Koumrian) (04/03/91)

It is too easy.  I also have an old 1040ST.  Not only is there no
modulator board, but the composite output line that's supposed to come
out the connector doesn't exist.  On later models it was added.  We're
screwed.  My info comes both from the Atari ST Internals book and I
asked at an atari shop just the other week about this.  Oh well.

rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins) (04/03/91)

In article <4539.27f72f4f@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins) writes:
> In article <40250015@hpindda.cup.hp.com>, goo@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Michael Goo) writes:
>>>in comp.sys.atari.st/rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
>>>writes:
>>>On a related note, is it possible to add a RF modulator to an older ST? 
>>>I've noticed that there is space on the motherboard for it, but nothing is 
>>>there.
>> The Atari monitor connector has a line for composite video.  This is essentially
>> regular NTSC signal without being modulated to a TV frequency.  You can buy or
>> build a cable that will go from the monitor port to a composite connector
> 
> So if I splice into the composite line of the monitor, I should be able to 
> get composite output? It sounds a little too easy. Why would anyone buy 
> that Video Key thing then?

Apparently, its not that easy. I hooked it up like this, and got nothing. 
Is it possible to get a composite signal on older ST's with out having to 
buy a video key? My motherboard is rev. D. Has anybody attempted this?

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rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins) (04/04/91)

In article <28735@fs2.NISC.SRI.COM>, todd@NISC.SRI.COM (Todd Koumrian) writes:
> It is too easy.  I also have an old 1040ST.  Not only is there no
> modulator board, but the composite output line that's supposed to come
> out the connector doesn't exist.  On later models it was added.  We're
> screwed.  My info comes both from the Atari ST Internals book and I
> asked at an atari shop just the other week about this.  Oh well.

Is there any spot on the motherboard to get the signal though?

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D.C.Halliday@newcastle.ac.uk (Dave Halliday) (04/05/91)

Why not get an external modulator? I think even the Amega A500 one
should work if the connections are changed at the monitor socket end.

If not silica software here in the UK sell an ST modulator.

Dave Halliday
(D.C.Halliday@newcastle.ac.uk)