bill@sugaree.uu.net (Shrubber - one who creates/sculpts shrubbery) (04/14/91)
hi, I am in need of help with MiNT and MGR. I know that they will work on my system configuration meets the minimum requirements - I have a 520ST with 2.5 meg and a 30 meg hard drive. I down-loaded the two of them from GENIE, (which, by the way took forever even at 2400 baud), and am having trouble getting MiNT/MGR to operate correctly. Okay, here's the root of the problem... I can get both MiNT and MGR to start, but each time I try to open a window in MGR I get this "Cannot get pty" - quite frankly I have no idea what this means and have no way of finding out. The documentation that came with the two sucks and does not offer any real information. Heres my second problem; I cannot figure out way the commands that tell MGR/MiNT where to find its own programs to work, Ex: "make mgr INSROOT=<directory info> TARGET=<directory info> install" What I am looking for are clear, simple instructions for setting up and using MiNT and MGR on an Atari, because I couldn't get what I needed from the existing docs (thought they were cryptic). If anyone out there is willing to help, you have my thanks in advance. P.S. PLEASE NO FLAMING - I'm only looking for alittle help. Bill
timothyg@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Timothy Gallivan) (04/15/91)
|> Okay, here's the root of the problem... I can get both MiNT and MGR to |> start, but each time I try to open a window in MGR I get this "Cannot |> get pty" - quite frankly I have no idea what this means and have no |> way of finding out. I too would like some help getting MiNT/MGR to operate properly. If anyone has some info, would you please post it. I'm sure there are many with these problems. I also had the 'pty' problem. Apparently MGR is looking for the SHELL environment variable to figure out which shell to run. If SHELL is not defined or points to the wrong thing, you get the 'pty' message. I first 'setenv SHELL ...' and then run MGR and it works ... sort of. I had MANY, MANY other problems with these programs. They may be related to the fact that I am running TOS 1.0 (520ST with 4M memory). 1) MiNT will not install by itself, especially from an auto folder. Most of the time it crashes because it can't install the proper cookie (or something like that). I wrote a little TSR to install the cookie and I can get MiNT up after that, but it is a major pain. Sometimes MiNT crashes on startup because, it says, something is trying to kill it. Sounds paranoid to me. 2) After I finally get MiNT running, I run a shell (GULAM) and set the HOME, and SHELL environment variables, then run MGR from the shell. Mgr starts up, but does not execute the commands in mgr.rc, which is in the HOME directory. When I create a new window, it starts up a bash shell, but everything is very unstable. The system crashes if I try to open another window, or give just about any command besides 'cd' or 'ls'. After I open a window, I can see the cursor blinking over on the left side of the screen. 3) As an aside, what is supposed to be the default bash startup file on the ST? I can't create '.bashrc' on the ST, and bash.rc and other obvious guesses don't work either. I (and apparently others) would greatly appreciate some help from someone who has this stuff working. It looks like wonderful software, if it would only work. Sorry for such a long message. Tim Gallivan timothyg@ncsa.uiuc.edu