[comp.sys.atari.st] Z*Net International

henry@argosy.UUCP (Henry Polard) (04/13/91)

YES! Please post Z*Net here.


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steve@thelake.mn.org (Steve Yelvington) (04/13/91)

[In article <1991Apr13.000851.12481@kcbbs.gen.nz>,
     Jon_Clarke@kcbbs.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes ... ]

> Do you the readers of this news group want to ZNET International posted 
> to here.  It is on average about 40k in length and would be posted weekly 
> from this site.  I will need a majority desision on this please. All 
> votes to - Jon_Clarke@kcbbs.gen.nz 

Thanks for the offer, Jon, but please do NOT. This has been discussed at
length in the past. Let's not get into a lengthy discussion of it again --
it's just inappropriate for comp.sys.atari.st.

There is a mailing list for distributing the ZNET magazine to people who
want it. I think details are posted in the monthly Frequently Asked
Questions file. I assume you have read it.

I'm not against the magazine -- I happen to be on the zmagazine mailing
list myself -- but please, not in a Usenet newsgroup.

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Jon_Clarke@kcbbs.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) (04/13/91)

Users wishing to contact Z*NET International on-line magazine please 
feel free to drop mail to me and I will forward it to the right department.
 
Email to :     Jon_Clarke@kcbbs.gen.nz   Z*Net International NZ
 
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First request :
___________________________________
 
Do you the readers of this news group want to ZNET International posted 
to here.  It is on average about 40k in length and would be posted weekly 
from this site.  I will need a majority desision on this please. All 
votes to - Jon_Clarke@kcbbs.gen.nz 
 
What is Z*NET INTERNATIONAL. The most up-to-date on-line magazne dealing 
with Atari computers.   You may have seen many of the articles on the 
net over the last few years quoted from "ZNET or ZMag".  Up till now 
ZNET has not posted directly to net . rather it has been available on 
ANON FTP and other bbs's and onine services world wide. 
 
Thanks for your time.
 
- Jon_Clarke@kcbbs.gen.nz   Z*Net International On-Line Magazine.

Bill_Moore@mindlink.UUCP (Bill Moore) (04/14/91)

        I agree.  ZNET is available in a number of different places.  Let us
not waste bandwidth posting it here.
...bill

pyr579@oz.plymouth.edu (Technoid) (04/15/91)

In article <5483@mindlink.UUCP> Bill_Moore@mindlink.UUCP (Bill Moore) writes:
>
>        I agree.  ZNET is available in a number of different places.  Let us
>not waste bandwidth posting it here.
>...bill

Hey,

	I used to get ZNET from irisa.irisa.fr, but they haven't had a new issue in about a month and I was looking for a new site to find it at. Anyone
know where to look for Late March and April?

						~S


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gl8f@astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) (04/16/91)

In article <1991Apr15.160358.21355@oz.plymouth.edu> pyr579@oz.plymouth.edu (Technoid) writes:

>Hey,
>
>	I used to get ZNET from irisa.irisa.fr, but they haven't had a new issue in about a month and I was looking for a new site to find it at. Anyone
>know where to look for Late March and April?

Z*Net is available via email -- send mail to
stzmagazine-request@virginia.edu.

Amzing how many people don't read the frequently asked questions
list...

msymiste@cucstud.UUCP (Milton Symister) (04/16/91)

In article <5483@mindlink.UUCP>, Bill_Moore@mindlink.UUCP (Bill Moore) writes:
> 
>         I agree.  ZNET is available in a number of different places.  Let us
> not waste bandwidth posting it here.
> ...bill

      Its very nice that ZNET is available in a number of different places
      but I'm quite sure there are plenty of people that do not have access
      to it or else their sources can sometimes be unreliable( its happend
      to me). And besides ONE message a week... ok ONE LONG message a week
      is not going to waste bandwith. Its going to help people and if
      you already get ZNET just press 'n'.


				      peace,
					    Milton Symister
					    uunet!cucstud!msymiste

weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner) (04/16/91)

In article <2326@cuc1.UUCP> msymiste@cucstud.UUCP (Milton Symister) writes:
>In article <5483@mindlink.UUCP>, Bill_Moore@mindlink.UUCP (Bill Moore) writes:
>> 
>>         I agree.  ZNET is available in a number of different places.  Let us
>> not waste bandwidth posting it here.
>> ...bill
>
>      Its very nice that ZNET is available in a number of different places
>      but I'm quite sure there are plenty of people that do not have access
>      to it or else their sources can sometimes be unreliable( its happend
Let's see, direct mail from Greg, ftp to atari.archive, or mail service from
bart.  I'm quite certain that at least one of these is ALWAYS operational.

>      to me). And besides ONE message a week... ok ONE LONG message a week
>      is not going to waste bandwith. Its going to help people and if
One short message a month is a waste of bandwidth.  All of these
messages about this whole thing is a waste of bandwidth.  

>      you already get ZNET just press 'n'.
>
This just gets better by the minute, doesn't it?

>
>				      peace,
>					    Milton Symister
>					    uunet!cucstud!msymiste

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msymiste@cuc1.UUCP (Milton Symister) (04/17/91)

In article <1991Apr16.152858.8063@terminator.cc.umich.edu>, weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner) writes:
> In article <2326@cuc1.UUCP> msymiste@cucstud.UUCP (Milton Symister) writes:
> >In article <5483@mindlink.UUCP>, Bill_Moore@mindlink.UUCP (Bill Moore) writes:
> >> 
> 
> >      to me). And besides ONE message a week... ok ONE LONG message a week
> >      is not going to waste bandwith. Its going to help people and if
> One short message a month is a waste of bandwidth.  All of these
> messages about this whole thing is a waste of bandwidth.  
> 
> >      you already get ZNET just press 'n'.
> >
> This just gets better by the minute, doesn't it?
> 

   I take it back what I said about having Znet posted up. A few people
   have taken the time to enlighten me. They said(and I agree) 1)
   there are some people who pay for usenet so they cant just press 'n'
   and forget about it 2) there are very,very few people who have access
   to usenet and do not have an email address so if you want Znet
   just ask Greg Lindhal 3) by the time the emag gets to you all the
   way from New Zealand its probably already at your local bbs or genie
   or greg lindhal has sent it. 4) Also They said that that silly little
   vote should be taken again. 5) And also according to They this was
   proposed some time ago and was shouted down for the above reasons


			      peace,
				    Milton Symister
				    uunet!cucstud!msymiste

mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) (04/17/91)

msymiste@cucstud.UUCP (Milton Symister) writes:
>       Its very nice that ZNET is available in a number of different places
>       but I'm quite sure there are plenty of people that do not have access
>       to it or else their sources can sometimes be unreliable( its happend
>       to me).

Is there anyone who can read news but cannot receive Email?

>               And besides ONE message a week... ok ONE LONG message a week
>       is not going to waste bandwith. Its going to help people and if
>       you already get ZNET just press 'n'.

How about the time our modem spends downloading it?  Modems can't just press
'n'.


mathew

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lph@INEL.GOV (Randolph Pacetti) (04/17/91)

If I recall correctly, another reason that this was shouted down last
time was because of the advertising in Z*Net, which goes against the
Usenet no-commercialism policy.


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gl8f@astsun9.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) (04/19/91)

In article <1991Apr17.142554.2284@inel.gov> lph@INEL.GOV (Randolph Pacetti) writes:
>
>If I recall correctly, another reason that this was shouted down last
>time was because of the advertising in Z*Net, which goes against the
>Usenet no-commercialism policy.

Well, what you're remembering is the ST Report flap. The ST Report
on-line magazine always had an advertisement for hard-drives from the
editor's business. That's fine on GEnie and CI$, but isn't in line
with Usenet etiquette.

Z*Net's only flaw in this regard is that sometimes they're a bit
enthusiastic about reprinting verbatim press releases from software
companies. These sometimes go overboard on the advertising side. But I
don't think I've nuked one in ages.

All in all, Z*Net is a much better publication than ST Report anyway.