youngmw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Michael) (04/11/91)
I just downloaded the two new tcb demos from atari.archive. When I unarc them I find that they have a .reb extender!? What is this and how do I use them? Thanx Aaron
weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner) (04/11/91)
In article <10058@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> youngmw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Michael) writes: >I just downloaded the two new tcb demos from atari.archive. >When I unarc them I find that they have a .reb extender!? >What is this and how do I use them? The .reb extender siginifies that were created usisng Prorebel, a copier which allows you to copy wierd disk configurations. It was stated vey clearly in the index that prorebel was needed to properly run this demo. Prorebel is a coprighted program, thus it is absent from the archive. If anyone has a more widely known copier that will work similarly, please let me know. > >Thanx >Aaron weiner -- Jeff Weiner weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu Jeff_Weiner@ub.cc.umich.edu Mail Dennis_Devine@ub.cc.umich.edu and ask if he'd like a White Castle Atari.archive.umich.edu Caretaker||194M and climbin'|| "So like take off eh?"
boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) (04/11/91)
In article <10058@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, youngmw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Michael) writes: >I just downloaded the two new tcb demos from atari.archive. >When I unarc them I find that they have a .reb extender!? >What is this and how do I use them? > >Thanx >Aaron .reb files originate from ProRebel, which is a hacked (pirate) version(s) of Procopy. It allows you to copy a protected disk into a file, which can be uploaded to a Pirate BBS. A pirate on the other end can download it, and use ProRebel to create a new "protected" disk. This program also allows you to have several versions of Procopy being controled by one front end (GEM). It has nothing to do with ProCo, it is an illegal product. This is most annoying, as this means that the programs do not even have to be "broken" to be Pirate BBS fodder. -- ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ." email: boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu | ---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) (04/11/91)
In article <1991Apr10.233352.18903@terminator.cc.umich.edu>, weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner) writes: >In article <10058@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> youngmw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Michael) writes: >>I just downloaded the two new tcb demos from atari.archive. >>When I unarc them I find that they have a .reb extender!? >>What is this and how do I use them? > >Prorebel is a coprighted program, thus it is absent from the archive. If >anyone has a more widely known copier that will work similarly, please >let me know. Actually an illegal hacked front end for several versions of the commercial product ProCopy. -- ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ." email: boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu | ---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
drp9500@isc.rit.edu (D.R. Paradis ) (04/11/91)
In article <1991Apr10.204434.24785@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu writes: >In article <1991Apr10.233352.18903@terminator.cc.umich.edu>, weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner) writes: >>In article <10058@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> youngmw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Michael) writes: >>>I just downloaded the two new tcb demos from atari.archive. >>>When I unarc them I find that they have a .reb extender!? >>>What is this and how do I use them? >> >>Prorebel is a coprighted program, thus it is absent from the archive. If >>anyone has a more widely known copier that will work similarly, please >>let me know. > >Actually an illegal hacked front end for several versions of the commercial >product ProCopy. > ERRR - The version of ProRebel I used is a hacked version of A-Copy v. 1.2L Enough people wanted this demo up there, and this was the ONLY program that would copy it into file form I decided to take a chance. >-- > ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- > Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear > FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down > Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ." > email: boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu | > ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- -- ************************************************************************ * Just because I'm a film major | < Net-address > * * doesn't mean I'm a Spielber-wanna-be....| * * I'm a Lynch-wanna-be! | drp9500@ultb.isc.rit.edu *
boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) (04/15/91)
In article <1991Apr11.144434.1285@isc.rit.edu>, drp9500@isc.rit.edu (D.R. Paradis ) writes: >In article <1991Apr10.204434.24785@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu writes: >>In article <1991Apr10.233352.18903@terminator.cc.umich.edu>, weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner) writes: >>>In article <10058@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> youngmw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Michael) writes: >>>>I just downloaded the two new tcb demos from atari.archive. >>>>When I unarc them I find that they have a .reb extender!? >>>>What is this and how do I use them? >>> >>>Prorebel is a coprighted program, thus it is absent from the archive. If >>>anyone has a more widely known copier that will work similarly, please >>>let me know. >> >>Actually an illegal hacked front end for several versions of the commercial >>product ProCopy. >> > >ERRR - The version of ProRebel I used is a hacked version of A-Copy > v. 1.2L > Enough people wanted this demo up there, and this was the ONLY program >that would copy it into file form I decided to take a chance. > Whoops! You are correct that ProRebel is a hacked ACopy, but it is also an illegal product. The one which I was describing is called ProGem, and is also an illegal product. Both have their origins within the Pirate subculture. They are both quite similar: They combine different versions of the same copy program under a common front end. They both allow one to create a file containing both the data and copy protection info from a disk. These files are then arced or lzhed and uploaded to boards. Sorry about the errata. I do not question your use of the program, I just wanted to make sure you knew where it originated. Incidentally, the reason that several versions of the same copy program are desired is kind of weird (at least unique to the ST, to my knowledge). Basically, if you have version 1.1 of some copy program, it can copy some set X of programs. If you get 1.2, it can copy some set Y of programs. However, even though 1.2 is newer, it is not generally true that X is contained within Y. That is, the older one will copy some stuff that the newer one cannot?!? Strange, as you would think that the newer versions would only add capability . . . -- ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ." email: boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu | ---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
arktik@nro.cs.athabascau.ca (Ryan Daum) (04/22/91)
The problem with doing it in ProRebel form is that unkowingly you have included the entire ProCopy program! The way ProRebel does it's magic is it runs ProCopy and then when it reaches a certain point, it dumps all the contents of memorY (including the program) to disk. ___________________________________________ -=- ersys!arktik@nro.cs.athabascau.ca -=- |||---------------------------------------||| ||| Ryan Daum -- Professional Human ||| |||---------------------------------------||| -=- -=-
micro@imada.dk (Klaus Pedersen) (04/25/91)
ersys!arktik@nro.cs.athabascau.ca (Ryan Daum) writes: >The problem with doing it in ProRebel form is that unkowingly you have >included the entire ProCopy program! The way ProRebel does it's magic is >it runs ProCopy and then when it reaches a certain point, it dumps all >the contents of memorY (including the program) to disk. It is Acopy (eurosystems). And the memory is not dumped, it is ACOPY that is FROSEN, when it asks for the destination disk. PROREBEL is a illigal program, and so are the FILES compressed with it. ****************************************************************** The .reb files contains a full working ACOPY!!! please remove these files from atari.archive!!! ****************************************************************** To prove that point - put the this program in the same folder as tcbdemoa.lzh from atari.archive and start the is... (this works best on a color monitor in medium rez.) the program loads the Acopy at the position it was frosen at, if possible and starts it... - Klaus. table !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>? @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_ begin 644 reb_load.prg M8!H %. * $!( $ '( ( AF!G(!(&\ !"/( !z M=C/! !>B)H S3Z 4T^@ '-+\ 0 CR0 7P@"-")P#P _"Y 1^@ @"\)y M+P@O/ !* !.04_O QP ! 39Q)22T(S !!^0 8 A2P $< ).N0 '(_x M #\\ $Q.03\#+PIP DZZ *8D2+'\ *C.F,,0?D %.3KH AF!<(#P !"GDw MD(I.N@"$)'P J,Z0D!!^0 6E.N@" -@!"0C(#<'A.N@""($HB/ !AJ Pv M TZZ "XP TZZ #I5.0 "I&4S_$)# *D="\\ *C1B!\ *D1DZ06$]"0"1?u M-A].=2\(+P$_ #\\ #].04_O Q.=3\ /SP /DY!6$].=2\(/SP "4Y!7$].t M=2\ /SP 2$Y!7$\@0$YU/P O"#\\ #U.05!/3G4_ C\!+P _/ !"3D%/[P *s M3G5#86XG="!,;V%D(2 M4F5M;W9E($%#0W,*#0!T8V)D96UO82YR96( r (#@86, PB( !,q p end
micro@imada.dk (Klaus Pedersen) (04/25/91)
micro@imada.dk (Klaus Pedersen) writes: >To prove that point - put the this program in the same folder as tcbdemoa.lzh ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Please read : "tcbdemoa.reb" -Klaus.