[comp.sys.atari.st] STE incompatibilities

colas@trinidad.inria.fr (Colas Nahaboo) (10/30/89)

In article <1751@atari.UUCP>, apratt@atari.UUCP (Allan Pratt) writes:
> colas@trinidad.inria.fr (Colas Nahaboo) writes:
> People, the only official TOS 1.4 release is dated 4/16/89.  You can
> see the date in the ROM by dumping offset $18 from the start of the ROM
> (which is $FC0000 on ST, but not STe!)

I have brought a lot of confusion with my message, and I want to make things
clearer:

1) I do not want to flame Atari or Alan Pratt, who is doing a good job 
   monitoring this group. I just want to gain information (and I think I
   succeded :-))

2) My only concern is that I want to replace my STf by a STe. I only
want to       know if I can by it now or I must wait 3/4 months before
the software I
   want to use is upgraded for the STe.

3) I saw in a french magazine (Joystick hebdo) that they tested DM, Falcon,    
   Populous, Laser C etc... and they did not work on the STe!

4) I spoke to a ST retailer (NASA) who had a STe in shop and confirmed it to me

5) I assumed that these incompatibilities were due to the TOS 1.4 installed
   in the STe (In fact, it is a newer "TOS 1.6" which is sold with the STe,
   but I was told it only differed from 1.4 for sound with the new chip)

6) So I ran home test for myself these facts on my copy of populous with a
   disk version of TOS 1.4... If I cannot run Populous on my machine, I might
   as well buy an amiga (I'm serious here) I was so suprised that nothing
   had yet filtered on this newsgroup that I wanted to post a message to make
   some light on this subject.

So, as many people with first-hand experience pointed out, I WAS WRONG, 
but now the question is WHY:

-  is the STe really very different from the ST (as the change in ROM adress
   seems to indicate), and incompatibilties stem form hardware differences,
   not from TOS versions?

-  is TOS 1.6 the culprit?

-  do these softwares run only with ROM tos, and not on the disk-based version

-  Are these only rumors spread by the amigoids? :-)

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tdrga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Todd Drga) (04/26/91)

In article <23921@know.pws.bull.com> CSULLOGG@CRL.AECL.CA writes:
>I ran into a very strange problem using Calamus (1.09N). I was in the midst of
>preparing a newsletter using Calamus on a Mega 2 with an SLM605 attached.
>Since the SLM605 needs a meg of RAM I had little available RAM for use.
>So, I simply grabbed a 1040STE wuth 4 megs (I'm a dealer, I can do that
>sort of thing) and continued on. However, whenever I printed anything, all
>objects (text, graphics, lines, etc) had what looked to be shadowing.
>However, the shadowing was ragged and made everything look out of focus.
>When I switched back to the Mega, the problem went away. I switched back
>and forth a couple of times to make sure that it was not a problem realted
>to one document - it happended with every one I had.
>
>Anyone have ANY idea about this one??

On a related topic, I am considering replacing my 1040STf with a STE soon.
However, I would like to know of any incompatibilities that the programs
I plan on using may have with the STE.

I want to do CAD and DTP, so the 4megs of SIMMs would really be nice.  This
is the main reason I'm thinking of getting a STE.  The expanded graphics
capabilities and sound may be useful in the future, so I would appreciate
any info about those types of programs too.

I have CAD-3D 2.0 and the Cyber Studio line of programs, which I use now,
but I'm planning on getting DynaCADD and Calamus to do some serious work.
I also use Uniterm extensively for telecomm, and the Timeworks series of
programs for WP and DB.

Any info on bugs, general things to look out for with the STE, etc. would
really help.

 Thanks,

Todd


P.S.  I remember reading somewhere about a Super (enhanced?) Calamus that 
is in the works.  Anyone know anything about this?  The post that mentioned
it was 2-3 months ago, and I don't remember it that well.  I may hold off
on buying the present version if it is to be upgraded soon.

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