MUS6DC@CMS1.UCS.LEEDS.AC.UK (05/11/89)
Has anyone out there used Passport's "Clicktracks" on an Atari using a hardware or software Mac emulator? Is it likely to be possible or successful? In the UK it is possible to get Sigma's Alladin emulator (cartridge) - has anyone used th is? Thanks in advance. David Cooper. Music Dept, Leeds University.
blumin@spectra.COM (julia blumin) (07/22/89)
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robert_macausland@brains.UUCP (Robert MacAusland) (09/25/89)
Re:Mac Emulators:
Is there anyone out there who uses/owns the Spectre 128 Mac emulator?
Could they let me know how it worked for them?
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-===------===-colbeck@laika.misemi ( design) (11/14/89)
I'm new to this newsgroup so I'm probably asking a question that's been asked before... Just wondering what is the latest in MAC emulators available for the ST1040? I was looking around about a year ago and at that time I believe that Magic-Sac was the only thing around. Does anyone know what the latest revision of this product is or whether there is anything better around? Thanks in advance.... Roger
buggs@cup.portal.com (William Edward JuneJr) (11/15/89)
ANYONE know of a mouse 'accelerator' utility that performs like the one on the Mac Control Panel? I believe it's called proportional control? Ed<The GCR is GREAT!>June buggs@cup.portal.com <-- Is this just an UUCP address? I DON'T understand!
Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com (11/16/89)
Ed June asks: >ANYONE know of a mouse 'accelerator' utility that performs like the one on >the Mac Control Panel? >I believe it's called proportional control? The mouse accellerator program called MACCEL, written by Ken B. of Atari Corp is very similar to the way the Mac mouse works.. The faster you move your mouse, the faster the mouse pointer moves on the screen.. it's speed is proportional to the acceleration of the mouse. BobR
chuckie@pro-odyssey.cts.com (Chuck Schul) (04/29/91)
recently i read on this net area that there does exsist mac emulators witht ht the rom's copied on disks.and all disk based.i know that the roms were illegaly copied.but if all you need is software and a small cartdrige for mac roms instead then this emulator whould sell more.i wish dave small would wake yp excuse me up and sell us technology that is truely cheap instead of sticking to use when he does not have to.if all we need is mac roms and software or something like pc ditto 1 then it would sell to all st users.piracy excuse is not that validf to make it all hardware based. ---- ProLine: chuckie@pro-odyssey Internet: chuckie@pro-odyssey.cts.com UUCP: crash!pro-odyssey!chuckie ARPA: crash!pro-odyssey!chuckie@nosc.mil
psteffn@pogo.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Paul Steffen) (04/29/91)
I'm sure Dave Small's original intention was to release the emulator completely on a disk. Remember, however, that Apple is a company that sues anyone, no matter how big or small, that steps in it's path. They sued Microsoft, a company that if it weren't for their early support of the Mac, Apple might not even been successful with the Mac and and be quite different from the giant it is now [not to mention Steve Jobs ego. d:^]. They sued Hewlett-Packard, another company that Apple I doubt very much that it would have been a wise move on Dave's part to do it. [after all, the reason why the Mac operating system is so easily emulated is because Apple's hard work at developing an operating system elaborate enough to keep programmers away from doing any low level hardware stuff]. The Macintosh hardware is nothing. It's that 128k that makes up the ROM that is the Macintosh. The reason that PC Ditto resides on a floppy is because someone took the copyrighted bios and wrote a compatible one without somehow infringing on IBM's. Perhaps [although, this is only a guess] IBM might have tried to stop it purely because their BIOS and the cloned BIOS are identical in the order of the system calls but since the same goes for CPM which was developed many years before IBM ever thought of doing a personal computer. I read somewhere that a company successfully wrote a legal clone of the Mac roms so you may see a disk version emulator that is legal.
rwa@cs.athabascau.ca (Ross Alexander) (04/29/91)
chuckie@pro-odyssey.cts.com (Chuck Schul) writes: >recently i read on this net area that there does exsist mac emulators witht >ht the rom's copied on disks.and all disk based.i know that the roms were >illegaly copied.but if all you need is software and a small cartdrige for >mac roms instead then this emulator whould sell more.i wish dave small >would wake yp excuse me up and sell us technology that is truely cheap >instead of sticking to use when he does not have to.if all we need is mac >roms and software or something like pc ditto 1 then it would sell to all st >users.piracy excuse is not that validf to make it all hardware based. Um, excuse me? I have an original Magic Sac; it's a cart with two gen-you-wine Mac ROMs in it, and a couple of flops with the software. That sounds like the legal minimum of hardware to me. This product has been around for just ages; at least three years. Don't confuse this with some of Dave's other stuff, like the GCR product, that needs extra hardware to handle Apple disk-format idiosyncracies. Or the '030 based boards, which must have an '030 plus glue in them (at a minimum) to deliver the big performance boost that makes them worth owning. As a matter of strongly held personal opinion, Dave's work has been a pretty darned good deal all round. What research have you done before jumping in with all these accusations and factoids? Oh, and while I'm flaming (1/2 :-), why don't you learn to use a shift key, a spelling checker and a text editor? Beyond that, a few spaces after the `.' ending a sentence do wonders for legibility. Your grammar is also pretty weak, but I'll pass on that for now. -- Ross Alexander rwa@cs.athabascau.ca (403) 675 6311 ve6pdq `You were s'posed to laugh!' -- Zippy
sytang@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Shoou-yu tang) (04/29/91)
In article <8896@crash.cts.com> chuckie@pro-odyssey.cts.com (Chuck Schul) writes: > ... >illegaly copied.but if all you need is software and a small cartdrige for >mac roms instead then this emulator whould sell more.i wish dave small >would wake yp excuse me up and sell us technology that is truely cheap >instead of sticking to use when he does not have to.if all we need is mac > ... >---- >ProLine: chuckie@pro-odyssey >Internet: chuckie@pro-odyssey.cts.com >UUCP: crash!pro-odyssey!chuckie >ARPA: crash!pro-odyssey!chuckie@nosc.mil The Spectre and Spectre GCR is a cartidge to hold the Mac ROM and a software driver to interface the ROM to ST. So it already is doing the legal way. The only other legal way to emulate Mac without the ROM at this time is a company in CA. just annouced not too long ago that they have a clean room clone MAC OS which have not legally tested. ( i.e. Apple have not file any law suit nor the court has say it's not infringe Apple's right. They are waiting to see who is going to take the first shot from Apple). There is no cheaper solution until that clone ROM pass its legal challnge, and Mr. Small is not big enough to take that chance. ( Beside it's better for him to spend time in making better products for ST rather than spend time in court, Don't you think so?) Well, just my 2 cents. Tang sytang@lamar.colostate.edu