[comp.sys.atari.st] Comparisons with Mac's Stepping Out II

ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) (05/01/91)

Has anyone seen Stepping Out II for the Mac?  It's a program like 
BigScreen and MonSTEr on the ST, which creates a virtual screen 
larger than your actual screen, and then you can scroll around it 
using the mouse.  Anyone know if there's a program like it on the ST,
where you can shrink the virtual screen and see it all at once?
(Anyone even know how that's done, and if it can be done on the ST?)

I think Stepping Out II goes to 2048x2048.  Does anyone or would 
anyone ever use this size resolution?  Hey, how about 4096x4096?
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kawakami@cyclone.Berkeley.EDU (John Kawakami) (05/01/91)

I think that the next writer of a Bigscreen like program should incorporate
a "proportional pointer" (my term) like the mac CloseView program.  The
position of the pointer on the screen reflects the relative position of
the pointer on the virtual screen.  So as you move toward the desk menu
the pointer moves to the upper left corner of the CRT.  As you deal with
the File Selector, the pointer roves around the center of the screen.  If
you do something in the upper right corner of the virtual screen, the
pointer is in the upper right part of the screen.


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ONM07@DMSWWU1A.BITNET (Julian F. Reschke) (05/02/91)

In article <1991May01.065412.27026@ecst.csuchico.edu>, ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu
(Ed Krimen) says:
>
>Has anyone seen Stepping Out II for the Mac?  It's a program like
>BigScreen and MonSTEr on the ST, which creates a virtual screen
>larger than your actual screen, and then you can scroll around it
>using the mouse.  Anyone know if there's a program like it on the ST,
>where you can shrink the virtual screen and see it all at once?
>(Anyone even know how that's done, and if it can be done on the ST?)
>
>I think Stepping Out II goes to 2048x2048.  Does anyone or would
>anyone ever use this size resolution?  Hey, how about 4096x4096?
>--
>   |||   Ed Krimen [ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu or al661@cleveland.freenet.edu]
>   |||   Video Production Major, California State University, Chico
>  / | \  SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261

There are two such programs:

(1) BigScreen 2 (SciLab) runs on all STs, STEs and TTs, supports hardware
    scrolling on STEs and the new resolutions of the TT (given you have
    a TOS version >= 1.04). It can be configured by a DA or a CPX and
    handles resolution changes correct. Alas, it's a commercial program and it
    supports only scrolling screens.
(2) There is a commercial program by `Application Systems Heidelberg' which
    only runs on STs, but HAS the ability to shrink the screen.
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