marc@uni-paderborn.de (Marc Gumbold) (05/06/91)
As I decided to give my poor old ST yet another chance to be treated as a real, usable, reasonable, adult computer, I'm looking for (possibly from the PD realm...): (a) some kind of vector oriented drawing tool, like good ol' Gem Draw (perhaps improved?) or something like that. (b) some plot program that could plot x-y (or better x-y1-y2-...-yn) style data files and, if possible, function graphs. Or, put it this way, is there a decent port of Gnuplot running on a 1 MB monochrome ST available? (Think I read something like that somewhere...) Any hints where I should start ftp'ing? :-) Or any good (i.e. student friendly prices) commercially available products I should look out for? Thanks from my '86 ST... Marc -- Marc Gumbold EMail: marc@uni-paderborn.de Phone(home): +49 5234 5319 grad CS stud Snail(home): Nordstr. 29, 4934 Horn-Bad Meinberg, Germany ------ "Forty-two," said Deep Thought, with infinite majesty and calm. -------
boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) (05/07/91)
In article <1991May6.121144.4862@uni-paderborn.de>, marc@uni-paderborn.de (Marc Gumbold) writes: >As I decided to give my poor old ST yet another chance to be >treated as a real, usable, reasonable, adult computer, I'm looking for >(possibly from the PD realm...): > > (b) some plot program that could plot x-y (or better > x-y1-y2-...-yn) style data files and, if possible, > function graphs. Or, put it this way, is there a > decent port of Gnuplot running on a 1 MB monochrome > ST available? (Think I read something like that somewhere...) I have several great programs for this. First of all, you can try SubCal 1.14 on atari.archive.umich.edu. It is primarily a calculation tool, but does support graphing. Now, here is my problem. I have two tools from magazines. They are Sci-Plot and Ultra-Graph. Either one would be ideal for what you want (Sci-Plot is probably better, as it is more printout oriented). However, I am unsure if I can put them on atari.archive. Does anyone know? One of the magazines is dead (STlog), so would that one be ok? Is STart dead yet? Here are the issues: STart November 1988 - Sci Plot STlog November 1988 - Ultra-Graph (geez, that's weird!! I never noticed the identical dates before?!?) Anyway, if you can find the back issues with disk, you have got it made. Otherwise, if someone can figure out a way that I can legally put them somewhere, let me know. Sci Plot is geared toward making professional graph printouts. They come out looking great, and it is very flexible in terms of data input, graph type, error bars, placement, text on the graph, etc. Ultra-Graph is more of a screen oriented function plotter. It is absolutely stunning on a color monitor (I remember many days of dinking with this one when I got it). Also looks nice in high res. It can do 2D stuff, but it was really designed to show 3D plots. You can move your point of perspective, enter your own functions, change colors, etc. -- ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ." email: boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu | ---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
timothyg@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Timothy Gallivan) (05/07/91)
In article <1991May6.122808.3748@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) writes: |> In article <1991May6.121144.4862@uni-paderborn.de>, marc@uni-paderborn.de (Marc Gumbold) writes: |> >As I decided to give my poor old ST yet another chance to be |> >treated as a real, usable, reasonable, adult computer, I'm looking for |> >(possibly from the PD realm...): |> > |> > (b) some plot program that could plot x-y (or better |> > x-y1-y2-...-yn) style data files and, if possible, |> > function graphs. Or, put it this way, is there a |> > decent port of Gnuplot running on a 1 MB monochrome |> > ST available? (Think I read something like that somewhere...) I have a the ST port of gnuplot, but the screen driver is not very good. Also, it is command line oriented and produces mediocre printer ouput, even though it supports postscript. I have tried several other PD plotters, but they are generally disappointing. [stuff about Sci-Plot, Subcal, and Ultra-graph] |> Sci Plot is geared toward making professional graph printouts. They |> come out looking great, and it is very flexible in terms of data input, |> graph type, error bars, placement, text on the graph, etc. I have had Sci-Plot for a long time. It is great, but is basically worthless to me for one reason. It cannot produce high quality output files. Plots can be saved as DEGAS pictures, but that is the best it can do. I need GEM metafile or postscript output. |> Ultra-Graph is more of a screen oriented function plotter. It is absolutely |> stunning on a color monitor (I remember many days of dinking with this |> one when I got it). Also looks nice in high res. It can do 2D stuff, but |> it was really designed to show 3D plots. You can move your point of |> perspective, enter your own functions, change colors, etc. Does this thing plot 3D DATA (not just functions)? Does it produce resolution independent output? If so, I want it. There is some commercial graphing software called FirstGraph which produces GEM output files, but I have been unable to find the demo program. I refuse to purchase it until I can try it out. Does anyone know where I can get this demo? Tim Gallivan timothyg@ncsa.uiuc.edu
robin@castle.ed.ac.uk (R C Smith) (05/07/91)
In article <1991May6.121144.4862@uni-paderborn.de> marc@uni-paderborn.de (Marc Gumbold) writes: >As I decided to give my poor old ST yet another chance to be >treated as a real, usable, reasonable, adult computer, I'm looking for >(possibly from the PD realm...): > > (a) some kind of vector oriented drawing tool, like > good ol' Gem Draw (perhaps improved?) or something like that. If this isn't available perhaps someone could co-ordinate all you GEM boys out there to write such a beast.. Robin
warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison) (05/08/91)
>> (a) some kind of vector oriented drawing tool, like >> good ol' Gem Draw (perhaps improved?) or something like that. >If this isn't available perhaps someone could co-ordinate all you GEM >boys out there to write such a beast.. I'll write it if someone gives me some METAFILE documentation. I am in desperate need of a Metafile editor. Anyone!? Warwick. -- _-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.oz.au / * <-- Computer Science Department, \_.-._/ University of Queensland, v Brisbane, AUSTRALIA.