[comp.sys.atari.st] PC Ditto ? -or- PC Emulation on the ST

SYSPMZT@gecrdvm1.crd.ge.com (05/22/91)

Pardon my ignorance, but... I understand there is an IBM PC emulation
package (hardware or software) available to run on the ST.  I have an
old (TOS 1.0) 1040 ST that I'm thinking of dedicating to a PC, as I've
just bought a new 1040 STe.  I need the compatability to my and my
girlfriend's workplaces, and this could be cheaper than buying a clone.
I also get the potential of running ST stuff on that machine when I want to.

Does anyone have any experience with PC emulation on the ST?  Is it fully
compatible with the MS-DOS world, and does it work on early levels of TOS?
Any disk compatability problems (I understand early TOS would not add a
3 byte identifier to DOS disks) and/or software solutions?  Approximate
cost range, and a good place to purchase it?  Did I dream that this capability
exists?

Thanks for any and all information and suggestions.

Phil Z

ytsuji@wucc.waseda.ac.jp (Y.Tsuji) (05/24/91)

In article <91142.115339SYSPMZT@GECRDVM1.BITNET>, SYSPMZT@gecrdvm1.crd.ge.com writes:
> Pardon my ignorance, but... I understand there is an IBM PC emulation
> package (hardware or software) available to run on the ST.  I have an
Yes, there is.
> old (TOS 1.0) 1040 ST that I'm thinking of dedicating to a PC, as I've
> just bought a new 1040 STe.  I need the compatability to my and my
> girlfriend's workplaces, and this could be cheaper than buying a clone.
> I also get the potential of running ST stuff on that machine when I want to.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience with PC emulation on the ST?  Is it fully
> compatible with the MS-DOS world, and does it work on early levels of TOS?
I bought mine in 1988 when the TOS was 1.4. The sales talk says it runs most
of the famous programs.
> Any disk compatability problems (I understand early TOS would not add a
> 3 byte identifier to DOS disks) and/or software solutions?  Approximate
It comes with a formatter, because it assumes that a 5.25" double sided
double density 40-cylinder drive (360K, not 720K) is the standard media.
> cost range, and a good place to purchase it?  Did I dream that this capability
> exists?
I want to sell them to anyone. The reason is that the MSDOS we use here has
almost nothing to do with the American version (I didn't expect PC Ditto to 
print Japanese characters on ST's screen) and therefore unusable except 
for copying files, which primarily does not require an emulator.
> 
> Thanks for any and all information and suggestions.
> 
> Phil Z

For sale:
pc-ditto by Avant-Guarde Systems. Euro version (for UK?). The user registration
card yet to be filled. The program itself is in a 3.5" diskette. Eidersoft,
a London vendor, has attached a 'IBM FORMAT SOFTWARE'.
 	Asking Yen 5,000 or US$35.oo including postage by air.

A 80/40 track 5.25" floppy drive for immediate use for ATARI ST. (240 Volt
power supply is assumed) You will have to fix the power supply if you are
outside UK (using a 5 and 12 DC volt power supply or a transformer).
        Asking Yen 10,000 or US$75 including surface mail postage (I could
        remove the 240V to 8V transformer inside to make it less heavy).

Originally bought from PowerComputing in England.

If you are interesed, please email to
   ytsuji@cfi.waseda.ac.jp or
   YTSUJI AT JPNWS00   (bitnet)

revpk@cellar.UUCP (Brian 'Rev P-K' Siano) (05/24/91)

SYSPMZT@gecrdvm1.crd.ge.com writes:
> 
> Does anyone have any experience with PC emulation on the ST?  Is it fully
> compatible with the MS-DOS world, and does it work on early levels of TOS?
> Any disk compatability problems (I understand early TOS would not add a
> 3 byte identifier to DOS disks) and/or software solutions?  Approximate
> cost range, and a good place to purchase it?  Did I dream that this capabilit
> exists?
> 
> Thanks for any and all information and suggestions.
> 
> Phil Z

        I had the misfortune of buing a PC Ditto board for my ST-- not only 
didn't the thing fit in my 1040's case, but even attached without a case, the 
thing simply wouldn't work. Since Avante-Garde has apparently gone out of 
business, I doubt I'll ever get the worthless thing running.

        You may consider simply buying a real PC cone-- they're very cheap, 
and since Intel lost a copyright suit, we can look forward to some price 
wars over 386s and 486s. Even if you get the Supercharger (an IBM emulator 
I've heard lots of good things about), you're still tied to the ST-- and 
upgrade boards and stuff might not always be supported.