luoto@cs.Helsinki.FI (Markku Luoto) (03/26/91)
Has anybody Really used/tested multi GEM ??? what's it worth ? how fast ??? and most important: does it work on TT030/8 ??? if does, does it take advantage of the fast TT-ram (so. does it support over 4megs of memory ???) wilco ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >>>>>> " I'm completely operational & all my cicuits are functioning <<<<<< >>>>>> correctly...correc...corr...co...-! " : HAl9000 <<<<<< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) (04/10/91)
In article <1991Apr9.135117.24365@informatik.uni-erlangen.de> csbrod@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Claus Brod) writes: >>6. I spoke with the developer of Revolver and there is no plan for an >> upgrade to the TT (ST versions did not sell very well). Pity, >> the ST/TT without Revolver is a drag. Anyone else working on a TT >> task switcher (I could retire before UNIX is ready). > >Try MultiGEM from Maxon in Germany. It's a MultiFinder-clone for the >ST which will soon be released for the TT, too. What else can you tell us about MultiGEM? Price? Is it compatible with TOS 1.4 and STe? Any plans for a North American distribution? Please provide us with Maxon's address. -- Ed Krimen ............................................... ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico ||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661 / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0
stigvi@Lise.Unit.NO (Stig Vidar Hovland) (04/10/91)
In article <1991Apr09.180854.7134@ecst.csuchico.edu>, ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) writes: |> |> What else can you tell us about MultiGEM? Price? Is it compatible with |> TOS 1.4 and STe? Any plans for a North American distribution? Please |> provide us with Maxon's address. Price is DM 159,- and it is supposed to work on tos >= 1.2
csbrod@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Claus Brod) (04/10/91)
ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) writes: >>Try MultiGEM from Maxon in Germany. It's a MultiFinder-clone for the >>ST which will soon be released for the TT, too. >What else can you tell us about MultiGEM? Price? Is it compatible with >TOS 1.4 and STe? Any plans for a North American distribution? Please >provide us with Maxon's address. MAXON Computer Industriestrasse 26 D-6236 Eschborn Germany Warning concerning everything I tell you about MultiGEM: I know the programmer personally, so my views may be biased. Take them with a grain of salt 8-) MultiGEM is something like a MultiFinder clone for the ST series. I think it also runs on 1040STe and MegaSTEs, but I'm not sure. At CeBIT, it had some problems with TT fast RAM, but I didn't expect anything else for it was presented as a ST-only-product _at the moment_. MultiGEM is a small AUTO folder program (eats up 30 or 40 KB in memory) that lets you start up several applications simultaneously from the Desktop (or from GEMINI). This is done by faking the AES into thinking that those applications are in fact accessories. (Yes, this means that you can't have more than 7 applications at one time, and that you have to sacrifice ACC slots to start up applications.) The applications multitask cooperatively following the standard GEM concept of giving up control from time to time by calling the AES. All the major GEM applications work. TOS program output can be redirected to a window, so they want mess up other programs' screens, and TOS programs will even multitask this way! If you click into a program's window, its menu bar is switched on and displayed in the first line of the screen. If the program owns a desktop, this will be brought to the front, too. Alternatively, you can switch applications by clicking into the Desk menu where you find the names of the currently running applications. Some programs won't multitask properly. One of them is SIGNUM. If you start it up and click into its "window", windows from the desktop beneath will show up and mess up the display. This is because SIGNUM doesn't do proper GEM output. In these cases, you can force MultiGEM into singletasking mode. Some other applications like to eat up the complete memory available. MultiGEM can fool them during startup so that they will leave enough room for other programs. MultiGEM has been presented at CeBIT in March. It is not yet a real commercial product as I understand. I heard rumors that it might be available RSN, but I can't say for sure. There will be a special TT version, but I don't have any details on it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Claus Brod, Am Felsenkeller 2, Things. Take. Time. D-8772 Marktheidenfeld, West Germany (Piet Hein) csbrod@medusa.informatik.uni-erlangen.de Claus Brod@wue.maus.de ----------------------------------------------------------------------
seldin@antares.concordia.ca ( JONATHAN SELDIN ) (06/06/91)
I have just seen an ad in a catalog from E. Arthur Brown for MultiGEM, which is said to be a multitasking system for the ST. Does anybody know anything about it? In particular: 1. How good is it? Will it run, for example, dvist and unix windows? Will it permit a background kermit transfer via unix windows or uniterm? 2. How does it compare to MiNT? 3. Does it run on a TT? If not, is there a version for the TT? Please send me e-mail, and I will summarize to the net. Thank you. -- Jonathan P. Seldin Department of Mathematics seldin@alcor.concordia.ca Concordia University, Montreal seldin@vax2.concordia.ca